PC's as Outsider Question

[Tetsubo]

If a PC travels to another Material Plane other than their own, are they considered an outsider?

What if their racial type or core class doesn't exist on this secondary Material Plane? Example: a Plane that has no Elves or Sorcerers or such. So they would be a truly unique presence on that Plane.

Or is acquiring a suitable PrC that grants the Outsider status the only route?

The PC's in my current campaign might be put into a situation where some of them maybe unique on an alternate Material Plane they might visit.

 

[Caliber]

If it is another material plane (and not just another planet on their material plane) I think all of them would be considered outsiders. Better watch out. Outsiders can't be Raised.

 

[Moon_Goddess]

If a PC travels to another Material Plane other than their own, are they considered an outsider?

No, they are considered Extraplanar creatures but not outsiders as outsider is a type. Still remember, the Banish spell and things like it work on Extraplanar creatures, not outsiders.

What if their racial type or core class doesn't exist on this secondary Material Plane? Example: a Plane that has no Elves or Sorcerers or such. So they would be a truly unique presence on that Plane.

Or is acquiring a suitable PrC that grants the Outsider status the only route?

The PC's in my current campaign might be put into a situation where some of them maybe unique on an alternate Material Plane they might visit.

Again, they would still be Type Humaniod, but be considered extraplanar creatures, despite being unique.

And if they were a 20th level monk they would be a native outsider, and if the monk traveled to another plane he would be considered, an extraplanar native outsider (huh?) and still would be able to be rasied from the dead. Freaky huh?

 

[Roland Delacroix]

So in truth it is not outsiders but extraplanar creatures that cannot be raised?

 

[Pax]

So in truth it is not outsiders but extraplanar creatures that cannot be raised?

Uh, no, not at ALL.

 

[Chun-tzu]

So in truth it is not outsiders but extraplanar creatures that cannot be raised?

Dude, you are so confused. Extraplanars cannot go outside.

 

[Caliber]

Sure. Go ahead. Prove me wrong. Meanie.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

What DarwinofMind said: Your type is still Humanoid: You're still raisable, and you can still be affected by charm person and the like. You won't gain darkvision.

But you are extraplanar, so you can be banished or dismissed or whatever. It's the same as with real outsiders: you can't banish a devil in the abyss, cause he's already home. But he could banish you....

Dismissal and Banishment are really tricky:
Dismissal sends the creature back to its home plane,
Banishment forces them out of your home plane.

So you can't banish anything when you're away from home, and you can't dismiss something that's not away from home.

I think there's a special case for the so-called "Native Outsiders" like Tieflings or Aasimars: you can't dismiss them on the material, because they are home on the material, but you can banish them, because they're effecitvely extraplanar creatures and the spell only talks about forcing them away from your home plane.

 

[Nish]

It's the same as with real outsiders: you can't banish a devil in the abyss, cause he's already home.

LOL. And I mean that. As an old Planescape player, that's the funniest thing I've heard in a while.