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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 8860254" data-attributes="member: 7035894">I don't really understand why you claim that Phandelver is designed for veterans. It offers a simplified version of the rules, with pre-made characters, and constant tips for how to run encounters. I would say that it is a very good starter set, and it seems to have been very effective at bringing new players into the game, given that 5e has been flooded with new players and many of them started with it.What makes it great is that it is also good for veterans, not because of the simplified rules, but because it is an outstanding little sandbox adventure world and wonderful little 4-5 game campaign.I also don't follow your argument that the DMG is designed to teach veteran DM's how to convert to 5e. Can you give an example of what you mean? I would argue that the problems with the DM's guide go right back to the first version of the DM's Guide for AD&D, which was the least essential of the core books even back then.</blockquote>