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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9313890" data-attributes="member: 93670">I think that a pruning like that has nothing to do with what is needed.&nbsp; Somewhere between 3.5 &amp; 5e* there was a shift in mindset that needs correcting and the way 5e shifts the work of a rules heavy system onto the GM in order to pretend that it's rules light for players probably has a lot to do with it.&nbsp; Professordm had a great video the other day talking about how nobody would consider it ok to regularly last minute blow off things like thanksgiving/Christmas dinner or birthday and wedding invite attendance without the involvement of things like a hospital but &quot;<a href="https://www.enworld.org/goto/post?id=9293474" target="_blank">I showed up, don't expect more from me&quot;</a> has become a mindset considered reasonable enough that simply bringing it up will often spark outrage and excuses when behaving that way without shame is considered reasonable for a critical mass of d&amp;d players [Spoiler=&quot;said video&quot;][MEDIA=youtube]eBlDU-318aI[/MEDIA][/Spoiler]*I'm ignoring 4e not excusing or damning it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9313890, member: 93670"] I think that a pruning like that has nothing to do with what is needed. Somewhere between 3.5 & 5e* there was a shift in mindset that needs correcting and the way 5e shifts the work of a rules heavy system onto the GM in order to pretend that it's rules light for players probably has a lot to do with it. Professordm had a great video the other day talking about how nobody would consider it ok to regularly last minute blow off things like thanksgiving/Christmas dinner or birthday and wedding invite attendance without the involvement of things like a hospital but "[URL='https://www.enworld.org/goto/post?id=9293474']I showed up, don't expect more from me"[/URL] has become a mindset considered reasonable enough that simply bringing it up will often spark outrage and excuses when behaving that way without shame is considered reasonable for a critical mass of d&d players [Spoiler="said video"] [MEDIA=youtube]eBlDU-318aI[/MEDIA] [/Spoiler] *I'm ignoring 4e not excusing or damning it. [/QUOTE]

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