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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7179896" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>I just reread my recent long post, and I realized that I mis-stated something.</p><p></p><p>STR bonuses apply immediately to melee combat, <em>if your character is a melee combatant.</em> Not everyone is.</p><p></p><p>CON bonuses apply immediately to Fort Saves and HP for everyone.</p><p></p><p>Dex bonuses apply immediately to Init, ranged attacks and Reflex saves.</p><p></p><p>INT bonuses apply immediately to magical combat, <em>if your character is an INT based spell caster.</em> Not everyone is.</p><p></p><p>WIS bonuses apply immediately to Will saves and Magical combat, <em>if your character is a Cleric or Wisdom based caster.</em> Not everyone is. Dealing with undead is limited to Clerics and, to a lesser extent, Paladins.</p><p></p><p>Cha bonuses apply immediately to magical combat, <em>if your character is a Charisma based spell caster.</em> Not everyone is.</p><p></p><p>All stats affect skill bonuses for related skills, but INT gets an extra advantage that none of the others do. It affects how many skill points your character gets for every future level. </p><p></p><p>Over all the physical stats seem to have the edge, in terms of direct effects for bonuses, since physical combat plays such a large role in the game. Charisma seems to come out on the short end of the stick, since there are so few Charisma based skills, it has no Save associated with it and it has no physical combat effect. Unless you're a Sorcerer or Bard a Charisma bonus seems almost wasted.</p><p></p><p>It's an uneven field, to be sure, but of the mental stats INT seems to be the golden child. </p><p></p><p>Looked at in that light though, trying to make that extra advantage retroactive just seems greedy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7179896, member: 6669384"] I just reread my recent long post, and I realized that I mis-stated something. STR bonuses apply immediately to melee combat, [I]if your character is a melee combatant.[/I] Not everyone is. CON bonuses apply immediately to Fort Saves and HP for everyone. Dex bonuses apply immediately to Init, ranged attacks and Reflex saves. INT bonuses apply immediately to magical combat, [I]if your character is an INT based spell caster.[/I] Not everyone is. WIS bonuses apply immediately to Will saves and Magical combat, [I]if your character is a Cleric or Wisdom based caster.[/I] Not everyone is. Dealing with undead is limited to Clerics and, to a lesser extent, Paladins. Cha bonuses apply immediately to magical combat, [I]if your character is a Charisma based spell caster.[/I] Not everyone is. All stats affect skill bonuses for related skills, but INT gets an extra advantage that none of the others do. It affects how many skill points your character gets for every future level. Over all the physical stats seem to have the edge, in terms of direct effects for bonuses, since physical combat plays such a large role in the game. Charisma seems to come out on the short end of the stick, since there are so few Charisma based skills, it has no Save associated with it and it has no physical combat effect. Unless you're a Sorcerer or Bard a Charisma bonus seems almost wasted. It's an uneven field, to be sure, but of the mental stats INT seems to be the golden child. Looked at in that light though, trying to make that extra advantage retroactive just seems greedy. [/QUOTE]
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