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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AuraSeer" data-source="post: 727494" data-attributes="member: 1331">I can't believe you think this is simply a tactics question, and are getting snotty about it to boot.You've pointed out four tremendously obvious anti-archer tactics, which are only applicable in some situations. Taking cover only works if cover exists within reach. Moving to melee the archer can only work if he's in an accessible area (not flying or Spider Climbing out of your reach), and if your speed is equal to his. Using your own ranged weapons is a sure way to lose in almost all cases, since you're a non-archer-type fighting against a purely dedicated archer.Anyway, that's all beside the real point. Those simplistic anti-archer tactics are basically rules-independent. The question here is about the balance of archers under the 3E rules.Berk said: "No archer can ever be uber unless someone is cheating." He's claiming that, under the rules, it's totally impossible for an archer to be stronger than other character types. For that kind of absolute assertion, a couple of examples don't count as proof, and neither do simple tactical rules of thumb. If you agree that all archers in all cases must be either weak characters or cheaters, I think it's reasonable to ask what led you to that conclusion.</blockquote>