PETITION: Keep the term 'Adventure Path' Open Source!


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takasi said:
Why confuse the community?

Why take the term away from Dungeon Magazine in the first place?

Why not support the open gaming community by giving us that term to us?

Does "Kleenex" confuse most consumers? I say to another person, "do you have a Kleenex?" and they have Generimax Facial Tissues in their purse, do they not hand me one? That's all I'm getting at -- the only people it will matter to are those making a product for consumption, not anyone using said products.
 

takasi said:
I pointed that out to them. Here is their response:

"For the record, Kleenex is also not a generic term—it's a registered trademark. While the general public often uses the term incorrectly, you won't find anyone other than Kimberly-Clark marketing their facial tissues with the word Kleenex."
And, if you use Kleenex in a publication to refer to anything other than Kleenex-brand facial tissues, without attributing the trademark ownership, you will receive a nasty letter from Kimberly-Clark, because they must show appropriate diligence in protecting their trademark or else it falls into the public domain. On a similar note, the use of Photoshop as a verb has generated the following page over at Adobe.
 

I love Paizo. I love what Paizo has with Pathfinder and what they did with Dungeon. I would continue to love to see products come out from Paizo. A large lawsuit could cripple Paizo. I don't see a large enough benefit to the exclusivity of the term to warrant the risk of a WotC suit.
 

Henry said:
Does "Kleenex" confuse most consumers? I say to another person, "do you have a Kleenex?" and they have Generimax Facial Tissues in their purse, do they not hand me one? That's all I'm getting at -- the only people it will matter to are those making a product for consumption, not anyone using said products.


flynn said:
Is it still okay to trademark the term that's already in generic usage?

If someone proves it in court, then cool - good for them. If Paizo proves it in court, then good for them. For the fan community at large, it really won't make a difference.
 


Doesn't anyone else find it ironic that they're fighting to keep this term out of public domain when:

1.) They already have distinct brands to differentiate their products (GameMastery, Pathfinder Chronicles).

2.) The majority of their business is based on using open gaming rules.
 

takasi said:
Doesn't anyone else find it ironic that they're fighting to keep this term out of public domain when:

1.) They already have distinct brands to differentiate their products (GameMastery, Pathfinder Chronicles).

2.) The majority of their business is based on using open gaming rules.

No.
 


dmccoy1693 said:
Who says the guerilla needs to hide or run away. If it swats the underdog, it'll probably be in to much pain to fight back. The guerrilla can just walk over, take its stuff and meander away. Underdogs need to rely on their Dex bonus. Unfortunately, Lawyers are the Magic Missile of our world, they always hit, no save. Lawyers are capable of doing much more damage then a single use of a Magic Missile spell.

Well, this is where we're getting to an impasse. Gorillas are large primates that dominate their kin through brute force. Guerrillas are harriers and other lightly armored, highly mobile fighting units.

A 900 pound Gorilla would be effective. A 900 pound Guerrilla would no longer be a harrier or highly mobile fighting person and as such would no longer be a Guerrilla.

-TRRW
 

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