Petrification - equipment stoned too?

[Quasqueton]

The flesh to stone spell says that a target's equipment is stoned as well as his flesh. Ironically though, the spell also says it only works on creatures made of/with flesh.

But there is surprisingly little info on the petrification effects of basilisks and cockatrices. Does this effect also stone a victim's equipment? Would it stone a non-flesh creature? Elementals for instances? Golems?

Where in the books does it say this? I can't find any general info on petrification.

Quasqueton

 

[Vaxalon]

Spells and supernatural effects are not always exactly the same, even when worded the same.

Personally, I don't like the idea that a spell like petrification or disintegrate wouldn't affect the character's gear.

 

[Norfleet]

If you cast Flesh to Stone on a flesh golem, do you now have a stone golem?

 

[Altamont Ravenard]

If you cast Flesh to Stone on a flesh golem, do you now have a stone golem?

No. Flesh Golems are immuned to all spells except those stated in their description.

AR

 

[Norfleet]

No. Flesh Golems are immuned to all spells except those stated in their description.

AR

Yes, but can the Flesh Golem be voluntarily instructed to waive immunity, or are flesh golems always immune, regardless of orders?

 

[DonaldRumsfeldsTofu]

But there is surprisingly little info on the petrification effects of basilisks and cockatrices. Does this effect also stone a victim's equipment? Would it stone a non-flesh creature? Elementals for instances? Golems?

If you're the DM and it doesn't say, it's essentially up to you, but I always thought equipment would be effected by any sort of magical petrifaction.

If you cast Flesh to Stone on a flesh golem, do you now have a stone golem?

No, but a "Stone to Flesh" spell makes a Stone Golem vulnerable to all attacks and damage-dealing spells for a round. I thought "Flesh to Stone" would to something similar to the Flesh Golem, but it doesn't.

 

[FrankTrollman]

The Flesh Golem can voluntarily lower its spell resistance and be petrified. Then it is a lump of stone - not a stone golem.

But nice try, all the same.

As to the Basilisk, it inflicts the Petrified condition, which doesn't actually mention whether it includes equipment or not. Standardly, gaze attacks only affect creatures, so by the rules a Basilisk oes not turn clothing or weapons into stone.

However, that's dumb - and any DM who rules that Basilisks turn peoples' equipment into stone has my blessings.

-Frank

 

[Kodam]

Hi!

Golems don't have SR; they have immunity! I don't think you can lower an immunity; just imagine a fire elemental being burned by a fireball...

The whole idea is quite cheesy: what kind of DM would allow this way of stone golem-construction to work??? Not me...

Kodam

 

[FrankTrollman]

Golem Magical Immunity works like infinite spell resistance.

In 3rd ediiton, Golem Immunity worked like spell immunity which is in turn like infinite Spell Resistance.

In 3.5:

A Flesh Golem is immune to any spell or spell-like ability which allows spell resistance.

-Frank

 

[Philip]

Golem Magical Immunity works like infinite spell resistance.

Not quite. An golem is immune to any spell or spell-like ability that ALLOWS spell resistance. Golems do not have spell resistance. So any reference to how spell resistance works does not apply to golems, including the voluntary dropping of SR.

Note that this means that a Golem can never travel with its master through Teleport spells, Plane Shift or even use a Teleportation Circle. Maybe this is why wizards created the Shield Guardian?