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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7787078" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>I am planning to read and review the PF2e Bestiary monster by monster. I plan to rank each monster in three categories: Art; Stats/Mechanics; Lore.</p><p></p><p>Each category will get a score from 0-2:</p><p></p><p>0 = <strong>Bad.</strong> Not what I would expect for this type of book and / or this level of creature. poor or incomplete or uninspired art, lore, or mechanics that add nothing to the reading, viewing, or play experience.</p><p>1 = <strong>Below Average</strong>. A little below expectations for what I would like to see in a bestiary and/or this level of creature.</p><p>2 = <strong>Average</strong>. What I expect to see for a monster in this type of book and/or this level of creature. You buy this book expecting to get scores of 1.</p><p>3 = <strong>Above Average</strong>. Slightly better than what I expect from a bestiary entry and/or this level of creature. Good art, lore, or mechanics.</p><p>4 = <strong>Exceptional</strong>. Above and beyond what I expect for a bestiary and/or this level of creature. Really great art, lore, or mechanics that make it a joy to read, look at, or play.</p><p></p><p>Then I provide a total score for each monster (the average of the art, stat, and lore score) with the same ratings as noted above for each category.</p><p></p><p>I love monster books and though I don't think I will be playing PF2e (and I didn't play PF1e) I always like to get another monster book. Heck 75% of the reason I purchased 5e adventures was for the new monsters! Anyway, I finally got to see the PF2e Bestiary in person yesterday and decided I didn't want to purchase the hard copy, but I did pick up the PDF for this review.</p><p></p><p>Also, in the list below, if the letter in front of the spoiler tag is red and a larger font, that indicates that letter has at least some completed reviews. Letters with no review yet are gray.</p><p></p><p><strong>Table of Contents:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787080" target="_blank">A-D</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787082" target="_blank">E-J</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787083" target="_blank">K-P</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787085" target="_blank">Q-Z</a></p><p></p><p><strong>First Impressions:</strong></p><p>[spoiler]</p><p>A few quick thoughts as I previewed the print and PDF copy</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It is a big hefty book. It is similar page count to the 5e MM, but feels heftier.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cover Art: I'm a little tired of WAR's style, but I like this cover piece. I think his style works better for monsters than it does for people and I like what I'm seeing. My one complaint is the color is a bit monochromatic / under saturated (and the troll's hands a bit over-sized).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PDF: Nice bookmarks, but no hyperlinks (bit of a disappointment). But it is extra nice you can get a legal PDF!</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Format/Layout: I like the general format of the stat block; however, because it takes up about 2/3 of the page width, there a lot of instances of the art work encroaching on the stat block. I don't like this and it was a big factor in why I didn't spring for the print version. The like the extra width of the stat block with room for notes, but I would rather the image find a location other than in the stat block. There are some other oddities (demon "lord" not located with the demons; green dragon spell casting side bar on the blue dragon stat page), but in general it works. The index, glossary, traits, and monsters by level sections are all useful. I do wish there was list of monsters by type though. <em>(EDIT: there is section of creatures by type, but it is less a list and more a paragraph of each type with the monsters jammed in. Not the most useful presentation, but it is there)</em>. I also don't like that several monsters have stat blocks that needlessly* bleed onto a 2nd page. That is really annoying to me.</li> </ul><p>*It is needless because the stat block is small enough to fit on one page, but the way the page is formatted cause the stat block to extend onto a 2nd page.</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p><strong>Final Impressions:</strong></p><p>[spoiler]</p><p>Not yet - I just started!</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>EDIT: There was some confusion about how / why I rate things, so I have tried to clarify things with a little update to the OP.</p><p></p><p>EDIT 2: It was pointed out to me that I missed some of trait modifiers in my review. As such I will be looking over the A's again before I start the Bs. Adjusting any ratings as needed.</p><p></p><p>EDIT 3: I have also decided to change the ranks from 0-4 (instead of 0-2) to give me a bit more flexibility. I am updating scores as I go through the As. I have also provided a Table of Contents with hyperlinks to the review.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7787078, member: 83242"] I am planning to read and review the PF2e Bestiary monster by monster. I plan to rank each monster in three categories: Art; Stats/Mechanics; Lore. Each category will get a score from 0-2: 0 = [B]Bad.[/B] Not what I would expect for this type of book and / or this level of creature. poor or incomplete or uninspired art, lore, or mechanics that add nothing to the reading, viewing, or play experience. 1 = [B]Below Average[/B]. A little below expectations for what I would like to see in a bestiary and/or this level of creature. 2 = [B]Average[/B]. What I expect to see for a monster in this type of book and/or this level of creature. You buy this book expecting to get scores of 1. 3 = [B]Above Average[/B]. Slightly better than what I expect from a bestiary entry and/or this level of creature. Good art, lore, or mechanics. 4 = [B]Exceptional[/B]. Above and beyond what I expect for a bestiary and/or this level of creature. Really great art, lore, or mechanics that make it a joy to read, look at, or play. Then I provide a total score for each monster (the average of the art, stat, and lore score) with the same ratings as noted above for each category. I love monster books and though I don't think I will be playing PF2e (and I didn't play PF1e) I always like to get another monster book. Heck 75% of the reason I purchased 5e adventures was for the new monsters! Anyway, I finally got to see the PF2e Bestiary in person yesterday and decided I didn't want to purchase the hard copy, but I did pick up the PDF for this review. Also, in the list below, if the letter in front of the spoiler tag is red and a larger font, that indicates that letter has at least some completed reviews. Letters with no review yet are gray. [B]Table of Contents:[/B] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787080']A-D[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787082']E-J[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787083']K-P[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7787085']Q-Z[/URL] [B]First Impressions:[/B] [spoiler] A few quick thoughts as I previewed the print and PDF copy [LIST] [*]It is a big hefty book. It is similar page count to the 5e MM, but feels heftier. [*]Cover Art: I'm a little tired of WAR's style, but I like this cover piece. I think his style works better for monsters than it does for people and I like what I'm seeing. My one complaint is the color is a bit monochromatic / under saturated (and the troll's hands a bit over-sized). [*]PDF: Nice bookmarks, but no hyperlinks (bit of a disappointment). But it is extra nice you can get a legal PDF! [*]Format/Layout: I like the general format of the stat block; however, because it takes up about 2/3 of the page width, there a lot of instances of the art work encroaching on the stat block. I don't like this and it was a big factor in why I didn't spring for the print version. The like the extra width of the stat block with room for notes, but I would rather the image find a location other than in the stat block. There are some other oddities (demon "lord" not located with the demons; green dragon spell casting side bar on the blue dragon stat page), but in general it works. The index, glossary, traits, and monsters by level sections are all useful. I do wish there was list of monsters by type though. [I](EDIT: there is section of creatures by type, but it is less a list and more a paragraph of each type with the monsters jammed in. Not the most useful presentation, but it is there)[/I]. I also don't like that several monsters have stat blocks that needlessly* bleed onto a 2nd page. That is really annoying to me. [/LIST] *It is needless because the stat block is small enough to fit on one page, but the way the page is formatted cause the stat block to extend onto a 2nd page. [/spoiler] [B]Final Impressions:[/B] [spoiler] Not yet - I just started! [/spoiler] EDIT: There was some confusion about how / why I rate things, so I have tried to clarify things with a little update to the OP. EDIT 2: It was pointed out to me that I missed some of trait modifiers in my review. As such I will be looking over the A's again before I start the Bs. Adjusting any ratings as needed. EDIT 3: I have also decided to change the ranks from 0-4 (instead of 0-2) to give me a bit more flexibility. I am updating scores as I go through the As. I have also provided a Table of Contents with hyperlinks to the review. [/QUOTE]
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