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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7794609" data-attributes="member: 83242">I'm not trying to.&nbsp; But based on [USER=12731]@CapnZapp[/USER] 's comments I think I have a different view of what &quot;average&quot; is than you or he.&nbsp; Average to me is what we should expect. Good acceptable art.&nbsp; That is a 1.&nbsp; Exceptional art would be a 2, that's hard to get to in my eyes.&nbsp; A 0 is no art or bad/misleading art IMO.&nbsp; As noted in post <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7794336" target="_blank">#11</a> the art is a bit below average in my ranking, but a large part of that is there are several monsters with no art.&nbsp; If there is no art, I have to give it a 0.&nbsp; In general the I think the art is average - what we expect when we buy a Bestiary.However, I think using a 3 point rank was maybe not the best idea as it doesn't have much granularity.&nbsp; I did that for a reason, but I understand that if you have a different viewpoint of &quot;average&quot; then these ranks may not work for you.Now, I am an amateur artist, so that may skew my opinion.&nbsp; I feel if it is art I could do, then it is really average at best. PS, I am also an amateur wood craftsman and I feel the same way about Ikea cabinets/furniture, and I own a few of those too.Also, art is very subjective.&nbsp; In the A's there is a lot of art that has a style I don't particularly like (loose and &quot;painterly).&nbsp; I have tried to be clear about that in the rankings and often have given that style a 1 where I personally feel it is a 0.&nbsp; I realize my bias and I try to work against.&nbsp; That being said, I also know the style is not universal.&nbsp; For instance, I really like the style of the Banshee and the Pit Fiend.Finally, I have an issue with art that doesn't match the description in the book. I think that is important in a bestiary and&nbsp; I am of the opinion that it shouldn't happen in this day and age.&nbsp; So I definitely mark down the art that doesn't match the description.&nbsp; I don't mark it down a whole point, but it is a note in the con column so to speak.I hope that explains where I am coming from.&nbsp; If you believe the art in the book is exceptional (a 2) than that is great for you.&nbsp; I don't feel that way so far.&nbsp; To me, it has just been average, but that is good enough for me to buy it (which is one of the main reasons I but a bestiary) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7794609, member: 83242"] I'm not trying to. But based on [USER=12731]@CapnZapp[/USER] 's comments I think I have a different view of what "average" is than you or he. Average to me is what we should expect. Good acceptable art. That is a 1. Exceptional art would be a 2, that's hard to get to in my eyes. A 0 is no art or bad/misleading art IMO. As noted in post [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/pf2e-bestiary-lets-read-and-review.666690/post-7794336']#11[/URL] the art is a bit below average in my ranking, but a large part of that is there are several monsters with no art. If there is no art, I have to give it a 0. In general the I think the art is average - what we expect when we buy a Bestiary. However, I think using a 3 point rank was maybe not the best idea as it doesn't have much granularity. I did that for a reason, but I understand that if you have a different viewpoint of "average" then these ranks may not work for you. Now, I am an amateur artist, so that may skew my opinion. I feel if it is art I could do, then it is really average at best. PS, I am also an amateur wood craftsman and I feel the same way about Ikea cabinets/furniture, and I own a few of those too. Also, art is very subjective. In the A's there is a lot of art that has a style I don't particularly like (loose and "painterly). I have tried to be clear about that in the rankings and often have given that style a 1 where I personally feel it is a 0. I realize my bias and I try to work against. That being said, I also know the style is not universal. For instance, I really like the style of the Banshee and the Pit Fiend. Finally, I have an issue with art that doesn't match the description in the book. I think that is important in a bestiary and I am of the opinion that it shouldn't happen in this day and age. So I definitely mark down the art that doesn't match the description. I don't mark it down a whole point, but it is a note in the con column so to speak. I hope that explains where I am coming from. If you believe the art in the book is exceptional (a 2) than that is great for you. I don't feel that way so far. To me, it has just been average, but that is good enough for me to buy it (which is one of the main reasons I but a bestiary) :) [/QUOTE]

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