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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9480842" data-attributes="member: 71699">Mulling this over, what happens if the creature declares it's not attempting movement of its own (going into sack of potatoes mode)? Or to sharpen the thought experiment, what happens if the creature loses its last hit point while being dragged?Seeing as an argument from realism that &quot;it's a creature that's moving by itself, and a skilled wrestler can force it to move in the direction he is pulling&quot; seems to fail in those situations, I feel it is better - if one wants to argue in that direction - to avoid explaining it other than in terms of what is permissible in game.One way that I can see to enable the kinds of stories you want to tell RAWfully is for DM to follow the rules on PHB 20. The way &quot;Carrying Objects&quot; is worded, carrying capacity only applies in cases that DM determines are unusual. They can simply say that - fighter drags an ogre around - is usual in this game world. They can even say it's only &quot;usual&quot; while that Ogre is alive.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9480842, member: 71699"] Mulling this over, what happens if the creature declares it's not attempting movement of its own (going into sack of potatoes mode)? Or to sharpen the thought experiment, what happens if the creature loses its last hit point while being dragged? Seeing as an argument from realism that "it's a creature that's moving by itself, and a skilled wrestler can force it to move in the direction he is pulling" seems to fail in those situations, I feel it is better - if one wants to argue in that direction - to avoid explaining it other than in terms of what is permissible in game. One way that I can see to enable the kinds of stories you want to tell RAWfully is for DM to follow the rules on PHB 20. The way "Carrying Objects" is worded, carrying capacity only applies in cases that DM determines are unusual. They can simply say that - fighter drags an ogre around - is usual in this game world. They can even say it's only "usual" while that Ogre is alive. [/QUOTE]

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