Pimping your Holy Symbol

Joker · Dec 5, 2006

Does anyone know if it's allowed to change the look of your Holy Symbol. Let's say an evil cleric is pretending to be a cleric of another faith, could he use a different symbol for his spells?

Klaus · Dec 5, 2006

No. You need your own faith's holy symbol. You could use an illusion to mask it, though.

pallandrome · Dec 5, 2006

I'd say no. A holy symbol, to do anything as all, needs to be backed up by personal belief. An evil cleric would not gain by toting around a holy symbol of Pelor, for example.

However, it might be possible, through use of Knowledge: religion, profession: design, or craft: appropriate material (or combination thereof) to stylize an evil holy symbol in such a way as to make it harder to recognize, if allowed by the GM.

IcyCool · Dec 5, 2006

No, but I could easily see a deity of trickery and deceit that doesn't have a symbol, and instead uses whatever other deity's symbol is handy.

That could be quite entertaining.

Storyteller01 · Dec 5, 2006

I'd say no, but enterprising clerics might be able to work it into another holy symbol. Followers of a shadow god might have a shaded effect aroung the edge of a shield of Pelor, or some such. It would be tricky work though.

Joker · Dec 5, 2006

The cleric in question is one of Asmodeus (Lord of Hell), but given that he posing as a benevolant person the upside down star is a kind of a dead give away.

IcyCool · Dec 6, 2006

Joker said:
The cleric in question is one of Asmodeus (Lord of Hell), but given that he posing as a benevolant person the upside down star is a kind of a dead give away.

Get two-way gloves with your holy symbol stitched on the inside (facing your palms), and the symbol of the deity you are using as a cover stitched on the outside (on the back of your hands).

GwydapLlew · Dec 6, 2006

Joker said:
The cleric in question is one of Asmodeus (Lord of Hell), but given that he posing as a benevolant person the upside down star is a kind of a dead give away.

Set yourself up as a small cult devoted to a minor deity that no one has ever heard of before. Incorporate some element of the deity into said religious symbol. The symbol given is only one of several options: there are other variants out there. (Complete Divine has some good ideas in it regarding this.)

Jack Simth · Dec 6, 2006

Invisibility + Permanency. Present two. Almost nobody can see the real one, you see....

TarionzCousin · Dec 6, 2006

IcyCool said:
Get two-way gloves with your holy symbol stitched on the inside (facing your palms), and the symbol of the deity you are using as a cover stitched on the outside (on the back of your hands).

Niiiiiice!

What if the PC's found this pair of gloves in the "suspicious-acting" NPC's private chambers? They probably wouldn't turn them inside out. This is exactly the sort of clue that PC's could discover and not know it was important...until later (if ever).