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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 9396478" data-attributes="member: 7025282">We have a 4 way stop not too far from where we live.&nbsp; Wide open…not congested per se.&nbsp;&nbsp; Between a couple of towns.I have never seen so many blown stop signs…I was in the middle of the intersection and a car passed 10 feet in front of me.&nbsp; Good things my breaks work.People constantly going out of turn as if they don’t know how 4 ways work.&nbsp; It’s not occasional but weekly first hand.It is shocking.A lot of kids now put off driving including my own due to anxiety.&nbsp; Probably the ability to connect online reduces the push to socialize in person too.I believe there is something happening.I also note that in college settings in particular, there are year on year increases in mental health issues.&nbsp; Some variability is due to data collection, reporting trends and data definitions…but…its so big and consistent I believe there is some unique variance accounted for here by cohort.Others can disagree but norms have changed and social structures have been fracturing:&nbsp; charitably we are growing and evolving.Less charitably a lot of bad stuff is just present in greater proportions.&nbsp; I am not proposing causality of anything.&nbsp; I am just saying if folks have trouble navigating 4 way stops there are going to be problems.Edited for autocorrect errors</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet-7, post: 9396478, member: 7025282"] We have a 4 way stop not too far from where we live. Wide open…not congested per se. Between a couple of towns. I have never seen so many blown stop signs… I was in the middle of the intersection and a car passed 10 feet in front of me. Good things my breaks work. People constantly going out of turn as if they don’t know how 4 ways work. It’s not occasional but weekly first hand. It is shocking. A lot of kids now put off driving including my own due to anxiety. Probably the ability to connect online reduces the push to socialize in person too. I believe there is something happening. I also note that in college settings in particular, there are year on year increases in mental health issues. Some variability is due to data collection, reporting trends and data definitions…but…its so big and consistent I believe there is some unique variance accounted for here by cohort. Others can disagree but norms have changed and social structures have been fracturing: charitably we are growing and evolving. Less charitably a lot of bad stuff is just present in greater proportions. I am not proposing causality of anything. I am just saying if folks have trouble navigating 4 way stops there are going to be problems. Edited for autocorrect errors [/QUOTE]

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