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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 9477894" data-attributes="member: 8461">If the viewer finds that certain qualities, which are themselves objective, are what makes something beautiful, then the state of being beautiful exists regardless of whether or not it's observed. They might be the ones making that judgment, but their judgment is that such qualities exist regardless of whether or not anyone observes them.If you think that a sunset on a cloudy day, and which makes the clouds appear pink while the sky turns orange, is beautiful, then any such sunset-and-clouds combo that results in those colors is going to be considered beautiful even if there are no humans left on Earth to observe it. The sun will still set, there will still be clouds, and at least some of the time the result will be that combination of colors. All of those things will be true even if no one sees them. While the definition of what's considered to be beautiful might be individualistic, that definition will (unless it's something truly unique and unable to ever be reproduced) be met in the wider world regardless of whether or not the individual in question is there to witness it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 9477894, member: 8461"] If the viewer finds that certain qualities, which are themselves objective, are what makes something beautiful, then the state of being beautiful exists regardless of whether or not it's observed. They might be the ones making that judgment, but their judgment is that such qualities exist regardless of whether or not anyone observes them. If you think that a sunset on a cloudy day, and which makes the clouds appear pink while the sky turns orange, is beautiful, then any such sunset-and-clouds combo that results in those colors is going to be considered beautiful even if there are no humans left on Earth to observe it. The sun will still set, there will still be clouds, and at least some of the time the result will be that combination of colors. All of those things will be true even if no one sees them. While the definition of what's considered to be beautiful might be individualistic, that definition will (unless it's something truly unique and unable to ever be reproduced) be met in the wider world regardless of whether or not the individual in question is there to witness it. [/QUOTE]

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