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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9609446" data-attributes="member: 7026594">It's also a non-representative sample.&nbsp; People who are motivated enough about D&amp;D to go on the internet and talk about it with strangers are a small minority.&nbsp; But people who want to complain or are looking for help or advice are inherently more motivated than people who are content or happy.I definitely disregard a lot of threads for those reasons.Total classics.&nbsp; I still have all my old Lost Worlds books.&nbsp; My brother and I discovered them at one of our first gaming conventions, in the 80s, then acquired as many as we could, there and at local game stores.&nbsp; I used to bring them to conventions for many years after, to fill time between other games.&nbsp; Wound up playing a few rounds with Frank Mentzer on a quiet Sunday morning at a local convention around 2009, 2010 because he was also at loose ends waiting for a session he was running.&nbsp; He told me about the OSR. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />There was a brief resurgence/re-licensing of the mechanics in the early 2000s.&nbsp; I remember there being a short series of Warhammer 40k ones (Eldar Aspect Warrior, Chaos Space Marine, etc.) but I didn't pick them up.Yeah, I've got a strong hunch it was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_in_the_Skies" target="_blank">Fight in the Skies AKA Dawn Patrol</a>.This was originally self-published by Mike Carr starting in '66, then the fourth edition by Guidon in '72, then by TSR in '75, so the term role-playing game didn't even exist yet.&nbsp; It got re-titled Dawn Patrol by TSR in '82, and somewhere along the way it got retroactively labeled an RPG because of the pilot experience system, I expect purely as a marketing trick.&nbsp; But it's really a dogfight wargame/boardgame.Historical note: It's the only game that's been played at EVERY GenCon, since the beginning.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9609446, member: 7026594"] It's also a non-representative sample. People who are motivated enough about D&D to go on the internet and talk about it with strangers are a small minority. But people who want to complain or are looking for help or advice are inherently more motivated than people who are content or happy. I definitely disregard a lot of threads for those reasons. Total classics. I still have all my old Lost Worlds books. My brother and I discovered them at one of our first gaming conventions, in the 80s, then acquired as many as we could, there and at local game stores. I used to bring them to conventions for many years after, to fill time between other games. Wound up playing a few rounds with Frank Mentzer on a quiet Sunday morning at a local convention around 2009, 2010 because he was also at loose ends waiting for a session he was running. He told me about the OSR. :) There was a brief resurgence/re-licensing of the mechanics in the early 2000s. I remember there being a short series of Warhammer 40k ones (Eldar Aspect Warrior, Chaos Space Marine, etc.) but I didn't pick them up. Yeah, I've got a strong hunch it was [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_in_the_Skies']Fight in the Skies AKA Dawn Patrol[/URL]. This was originally self-published by Mike Carr starting in '66, then the fourth edition by Guidon in '72, then by TSR in '75, so the term role-playing game didn't even exist yet. It got re-titled Dawn Patrol by TSR in '82, and somewhere along the way it got retroactively labeled an RPG because of the pilot experience system, I expect purely as a marketing trick. But it's really a dogfight wargame/boardgame. Historical note: It's the only game that's been played at EVERY GenCon, since the beginning. :) [/QUOTE]

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