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<blockquote data-quote="Ryujin" data-source="post: 9703049" data-attributes="member: 27897"><p>OK, I'm going to be rather predictable here and cite another motorcycle reference <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" data-smilie="18"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /> Cyclists and drivers can also likely get it as well, though.</p><p></p><p>A big part of learning performance motorcycle riding/racing, is making learned responses override the instinctive. It's quite common for someone to approach a corner, feel like they are going too fast to make the turn, then absolutely nail the brakes to try and save it. For various reasons this is the exact wrong response, but it's instinct. Making a fist comes easy. If you do this, you may overwhelm the friction of the front tire, skid, and crash. If you turn into the corner, while also braking hard, then the lateral forces will almost certainly make you lose traction. If you don't turn then you'll go straight off the road/track. If you brake while leaned over then all of that applies, plus inertia will tend to make the bike stand up, go wide in the corner, and again you're in the weeds. Worst case; the bike slides, catches, and throws you over the "high side" like a medieval catapult. I've seen people not hit the ground for 40 feet after that. They don't get up for a while, if at all.</p><p></p><p>What is the right thing to do? Lean. Take the corner. As you lean, the circumference of the tire is effectively reduced, slowing you down slightly. A little trailing brake, gently applied, slows you down more. Still too fast and going wide? Lean MORE. Get your body off the seat and shift your centre of gravity, so you don't run out of tire surface touching the ground. (This is why racers get their butts off the seat in corners; higher speeds in a corner, while maintaining traction.) Best case; you're through the corner and ready to panic over the next one, instead of potentially laying in the grass and waiting for an ambulance. Worst case; you lose traction and the bike slides. Because you're leaned over and closer to the ground, you both have a shorter fall and will slide instead of catching the Space Shuttle.</p><p></p><p>Reason over instinct, but learned response is faster. Do this enough, consciously, and you'll end up doing it <em>un</em>consciously.</p><p></p><p>TLDR: Thinking is better than reacting, but reacting <em>right </em>is even better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ryujin, post: 9703049, member: 27897"] OK, I'm going to be rather predictable here and cite another motorcycle reference :ROFLMAO: Cyclists and drivers can also likely get it as well, though. A big part of learning performance motorcycle riding/racing, is making learned responses override the instinctive. It's quite common for someone to approach a corner, feel like they are going too fast to make the turn, then absolutely nail the brakes to try and save it. For various reasons this is the exact wrong response, but it's instinct. Making a fist comes easy. If you do this, you may overwhelm the friction of the front tire, skid, and crash. If you turn into the corner, while also braking hard, then the lateral forces will almost certainly make you lose traction. If you don't turn then you'll go straight off the road/track. If you brake while leaned over then all of that applies, plus inertia will tend to make the bike stand up, go wide in the corner, and again you're in the weeds. Worst case; the bike slides, catches, and throws you over the "high side" like a medieval catapult. I've seen people not hit the ground for 40 feet after that. They don't get up for a while, if at all. What is the right thing to do? Lean. Take the corner. As you lean, the circumference of the tire is effectively reduced, slowing you down slightly. A little trailing brake, gently applied, slows you down more. Still too fast and going wide? Lean MORE. Get your body off the seat and shift your centre of gravity, so you don't run out of tire surface touching the ground. (This is why racers get their butts off the seat in corners; higher speeds in a corner, while maintaining traction.) Best case; you're through the corner and ready to panic over the next one, instead of potentially laying in the grass and waiting for an ambulance. Worst case; you lose traction and the bike slides. Because you're leaned over and closer to the ground, you both have a shorter fall and will slide instead of catching the Space Shuttle. Reason over instinct, but learned response is faster. Do this enough, consciously, and you'll end up doing it [I]un[/I]consciously. TLDR: Thinking is better than reacting, but reacting [I]right [/I]is even better. [/QUOTE]
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