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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9233648" data-attributes="member: 7030563">This is not factually true, and neural network can use a feedback loop with machine learning algorithms on the data it is producing to create "fresh" data.  This is how they developed new languages using machine-learnign algorythms.   Those were "fresh" words.The limits are the bounds of the medium it is using.  To use a common saying - if you type millions of letters in a random sequence over and over again eventually you will write the novel "War and Peice"  if use AI with a machine learning feedback loop you will get there much, much faster.Also humans are used extensively in training AI algorithms, especially early on.  You act like humans are completely out of the loop, they are not and in fact the "AI art" put in the recent WOTC publication that caused an uproar was done by a human.It doesn't need to think to create original content.  It does make decisions based on a set of algorithms.  Humans make decisions based on reason influenced by biases based on their race, social status etc.  I hardly think you can state that the second process is objectively betterAI by itself does not, but Machine Learning does contain meaning or symbolism and art by its very nature is in the eye of the beholder.You can create synthetic data.  Suggesting AI can't create new data because it is using numbers is like saying a human artist can create new art because there are only 10000 different shades of red she can use.If you are taking this approach and talking about digital art, like is being done by most human artisits today; there is a fixed and finite number of different combinations of an image of a given size due to the fixed number of colors and the fixed number of pixels.  Nothing is truely "original" as that entire palate exists on a pixel-by-pixel basis.All an artist can do is select the color represented by a certain string for a given pixel .... which is exactly what a computer can do. Ok then why are you so against AI art if it will never be good?  Put AI art out there and let people decide if it is any good!Also I was not talking about the Facebook  "near world takover" by machines.  I think that is the same sort of hysteria that is causing fear of AI art.   I was talking about OpenAI and DALLE-E2.</blockquote>

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