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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9234122" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Counting punctuation, there are far more than 30 characters (space, comma, period, semicolon, colon, double and single quotation marks, parentheses, question, exclamation, em dash, hyphen, potentially ampersand), and that's assuming we neglect capitalization. 26+17=43. If we're counting spaces and punctuation as part of word length, the average word is <em>not</em> only 5 characters long. In ordinary, non-novelized English, the average word is 4.7 letters long; I think we can safely bump that up to 6 characters, given many words will have more than one punctuation mark after them (e.g. period quotation mark space.)</p><p></p><p>43^(587287×6) is a number so mind-bogglingly huge, I can't properly represent it here in this text. It has over five million digits. Even if these hypothetical monkeys hammered out a new text every nanosecond since the Universe began, they would still need to re-attempt it a number of times with more than a million digits in it. Even if we allow for more than 10% of all characters to be wrong!</p><p></p><p>Random chance is too random, and AI only work by narrowing the field of random chance...through observing stuff that must, ultimately, be rooted in real data <em>if it's going to be art.</em> You can't fake art; folks know pretty quickly what faked art looks like, and if you could fake good art... you'd just use the fake-but-good art maker rather than training <em>another</em> art maker!</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Only</em> if it can actually pick up enough statistical modeling of how good composition looks and sounds.</p><p></p><p>As it stands? The very best AIs available can make five paragraphs before they break down. <em>If</em> they have good prompting. Every new paragraph is not just exponential but <em>factorial</em> growth in complexity.</p><p></p><p>It ain't happening, Jack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9234122, member: 6790260"] Counting punctuation, there are far more than 30 characters (space, comma, period, semicolon, colon, double and single quotation marks, parentheses, question, exclamation, em dash, hyphen, potentially ampersand), and that's assuming we neglect capitalization. 26+17=43. If we're counting spaces and punctuation as part of word length, the average word is [I]not[/I] only 5 characters long. In ordinary, non-novelized English, the average word is 4.7 letters long; I think we can safely bump that up to 6 characters, given many words will have more than one punctuation mark after them (e.g. period quotation mark space.) 43^(587287×6) is a number so mind-bogglingly huge, I can't properly represent it here in this text. It has over five million digits. Even if these hypothetical monkeys hammered out a new text every nanosecond since the Universe began, they would still need to re-attempt it a number of times with more than a million digits in it. Even if we allow for more than 10% of all characters to be wrong! Random chance is too random, and AI only work by narrowing the field of random chance...through observing stuff that must, ultimately, be rooted in real data [I]if it's going to be art.[/I] You can't fake art; folks know pretty quickly what faked art looks like, and if you could fake good art... you'd just use the fake-but-good art maker rather than training [I]another[/I] art maker! [I]Only[/I] if it can actually pick up enough statistical modeling of how good composition looks and sounds. As it stands? The very best AIs available can make five paragraphs before they break down. [I]If[/I] they have good prompting. Every new paragraph is not just exponential but [I]factorial[/I] growth in complexity. It ain't happening, Jack. [/QUOTE]
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