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Planescape, 4e, and the problem of worlds without history
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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 4635723" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>No, I believe I said "I just can't stomach a lot of the <strong>attitude</strong> used to <strong>explain</strong> design decisions." There's a difference. Obviously the new cosmology works for people, and I'm fine with that. </p><p></p><p>I have tried very hard not to say the new cosmology sucks, or that the <strong>decision</strong> to change the cosmology is stupid, or that the Great Wheel is the One True Cosmology because I don't believe any of those. </p><p></p><p>Does the new cosmology work <strong>for me</strong>? No, not in my current campaign. I really like the Great Wheel.</p><p></p><p>Was I annoyed by the "everything before 4e sucked" undercurrent to a lot of the marketing? Heck yeah, and I'm glad they've backed off of that.</p><p></p><p>Am I sad that decades of great D&D lore and material are being left behind with 4e? Sure. That doesn't mean WotC is wrong or stupid for doing so. I was also sad there wasn't a 6th season of Babylon 5 (another decade old cult favorite that is teh awesome), but anyone familiar with the show would know that a 6th season just wouldn't have worked as well. Now, I may disagree with how necessary some of the changes are in 4e, but I can certain stomach them and/or ignore them easily in my campaigns. </p><p></p><p>My rant was just against the attitude defending the changes, not the changes themselves. The worst reaction I had to the changes themselves was scratching my head and letting out a "Bwuh???"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 4635723, member: 40359"] No, I believe I said "I just can't stomach a lot of the [b]attitude[/b] used to [b]explain[/b] design decisions." There's a difference. Obviously the new cosmology works for people, and I'm fine with that. I have tried very hard not to say the new cosmology sucks, or that the [b]decision[/b] to change the cosmology is stupid, or that the Great Wheel is the One True Cosmology because I don't believe any of those. Does the new cosmology work [b]for me[/b]? No, not in my current campaign. I really like the Great Wheel. Was I annoyed by the "everything before 4e sucked" undercurrent to a lot of the marketing? Heck yeah, and I'm glad they've backed off of that. Am I sad that decades of great D&D lore and material are being left behind with 4e? Sure. That doesn't mean WotC is wrong or stupid for doing so. I was also sad there wasn't a 6th season of Babylon 5 (another decade old cult favorite that is teh awesome), but anyone familiar with the show would know that a 6th season just wouldn't have worked as well. Now, I may disagree with how necessary some of the changes are in 4e, but I can certain stomach them and/or ignore them easily in my campaigns. My rant was just against the attitude defending the changes, not the changes themselves. The worst reaction I had to the changes themselves was scratching my head and letting out a "Bwuh???" [/QUOTE]
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