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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4635752" data-attributes="member: 710">Basically, spells like Resist Fire or the MotP Avoid Planar Effects spell take the meaningfulness out of a challenge. It's a binary thing, and the solution is not problem-solving but reading your spellbook. Maybe this is indeed a thing people just won't agree, but I think if the solution to a problem is &quot;find the right spell&quot;, it is a very disappointing challenge to me. The solution needs to be more intricate. It's not just finding the right tool(s), but to use it effectively. Take the &quot;pool of lava&quot; problem. You need to cross it. You don't have a fly spell or a Resist Fire spell. But the Barbarian owns a Ring of Fire Immunity (let's pretend it exists and isn't broken <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ). So the Barbarian could cover it, but he can't just slap his comrades on his back. So maybe you use a portable hole (3E style) to carry his allies with him. Or the Wizard uses Telekinesis or Mage Hand to move the gauntlets back from the Barbarian to the rest of the group. If the Barbarian didn't have the gauntlets, maybe they would have needed to secure help, or find a different path to their goal. The solution is not just as obvious &quot;use the spell designed for my problem&quot; but &quot;combine tools to find a solution to my problems.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4635752, member: 710"] Basically, spells like [I]Resist Fire[/I] or the MotP [I]Avoid Planar Effects[/I] spell take the meaningfulness out of a challenge. It's a binary thing, and the solution is not problem-solving but reading your spellbook. Maybe this is indeed a thing people just won't agree, but I think if the solution to a problem is "find the right spell", it is a very disappointing challenge to me. The solution needs to be more intricate. It's not just finding the right tool(s), but to use it effectively. Take the "pool of lava" problem. You need to cross it. You don't have a fly spell or a Resist Fire spell. But the Barbarian owns a Ring of Fire Immunity (let's pretend it exists and isn't broken ;) ). So the Barbarian could cover it, but he can't just slap his comrades on his back. So maybe you use a portable hole (3E style) to carry his allies with him. Or the Wizard uses Telekinesis or Mage Hand to move the gauntlets back from the Barbarian to the rest of the group. If the Barbarian didn't have the gauntlets, maybe they would have needed to secure help, or find a different path to their goal. The solution is not just as obvious "use the spell designed for my problem" but "combine tools to find a solution to my problems." [/QUOTE]

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