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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 4636204" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>That's understandable. I'm just getting my 4e Planescape campaign rolling now. I'm hoping to post module conversions as I do them (I'm going to be largely just running the old 2e Planescape modules starting with part 1 of Great Modron March and then Eternal Boundary), but if push comes to shove, you bet I'll focus on my group before posts.</p><p></p><p>I am definitely enthusiastic about Planescape and its cosmology, but I also know it ain't coming from WotC any time soon. Although with it typically being right up with Dark Sun as one of the top campaign settings fans want to have brought back (according to many an EN World poll for whatever value you put in those), I wouldn't be shocked if it did come back officially sometime during 4e considering their "one campaign setting a year" model. I'm not expecting it to, but I wouldn't be shocked. And all things considered, I think I would prefer Planescape as a full blown campaign setting than as the background in the Manual of Planes. </p><p></p><p>If I had to wager on what the campaign settings would be from WotC, I'd say the two years after Eberron would be Dark Sun and a new setting (not sure which order) with the new setting probably being from the two finalists in the setting search that gave us Eberron (remember WotC did buy the rights to all 3 but never revealed anything about the other two). Dark Sun has always ranked very high on popularity polls, around that time they should be covering psionics in the PHB 3 (or 4), and that setting really feels like a great fit with 4e.</p><p></p><p>Then my magic 8 crystal ball gets fuzzy, but I'd probably put Ravenloft higher on WotC's re-do list than Planescape since it seems more workable in the 3 book model. And I would think WotC would mix in another brand new campaign setting or two in there if for no other business reason than to build more IP.</p><p></p><p>But considering how tieflings are a core race in the PHB, aasimar (sorry, devas) will be a core race in PHB 2, the emphasis that genasi have been getting, and having a Manual of the Planes out within the first few months of the new edition, it appears the planes are getting more loving from 4e than they did from 3.x even if it is less Planescape-canonical. So you never know.</p><p></p><p>If they did a 4e Planescape, and they did a good job with it, I would certainly buy it. (I can accept sensible changes to the setting if they make it better - heck I created a Modron civil war in Dragon mag.) If they published a 4e Planescape that disregarded too much and changed too much for the worse (in my opinion since there's no way to quantify that), yeah I'd probably let loose a rant or three. But as for the 4e Manual of the Planes and current cosmology, I'll just shrug, not bother buying it, and use my 2e books for my campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 4636204, member: 40359"] That's understandable. I'm just getting my 4e Planescape campaign rolling now. I'm hoping to post module conversions as I do them (I'm going to be largely just running the old 2e Planescape modules starting with part 1 of Great Modron March and then Eternal Boundary), but if push comes to shove, you bet I'll focus on my group before posts. I am definitely enthusiastic about Planescape and its cosmology, but I also know it ain't coming from WotC any time soon. Although with it typically being right up with Dark Sun as one of the top campaign settings fans want to have brought back (according to many an EN World poll for whatever value you put in those), I wouldn't be shocked if it did come back officially sometime during 4e considering their "one campaign setting a year" model. I'm not expecting it to, but I wouldn't be shocked. And all things considered, I think I would prefer Planescape as a full blown campaign setting than as the background in the Manual of Planes. If I had to wager on what the campaign settings would be from WotC, I'd say the two years after Eberron would be Dark Sun and a new setting (not sure which order) with the new setting probably being from the two finalists in the setting search that gave us Eberron (remember WotC did buy the rights to all 3 but never revealed anything about the other two). Dark Sun has always ranked very high on popularity polls, around that time they should be covering psionics in the PHB 3 (or 4), and that setting really feels like a great fit with 4e. Then my magic 8 crystal ball gets fuzzy, but I'd probably put Ravenloft higher on WotC's re-do list than Planescape since it seems more workable in the 3 book model. And I would think WotC would mix in another brand new campaign setting or two in there if for no other business reason than to build more IP. But considering how tieflings are a core race in the PHB, aasimar (sorry, devas) will be a core race in PHB 2, the emphasis that genasi have been getting, and having a Manual of the Planes out within the first few months of the new edition, it appears the planes are getting more loving from 4e than they did from 3.x even if it is less Planescape-canonical. So you never know. If they did a 4e Planescape, and they did a good job with it, I would certainly buy it. (I can accept sensible changes to the setting if they make it better - heck I created a Modron civil war in Dragon mag.) If they published a 4e Planescape that disregarded too much and changed too much for the worse (in my opinion since there's no way to quantify that), yeah I'd probably let loose a rant or three. But as for the 4e Manual of the Planes and current cosmology, I'll just shrug, not bother buying it, and use my 2e books for my campaign. [/QUOTE]
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