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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9150116" data-attributes="member: 23751">I see a different pizza analogy.The Great Wheel is pizza.  For a long time we ate the pizza and most of us were happy.  Then along came Planescape and said, "Look! Deep dish pizza!  It has what the old pizza had and a lot more depth(lore)."  Then some of us were like, "I don't like deep dish, so I'm going to stay with regular pizza." and others were like, "I love this new deep dish and won't ever go back to the old kind."  Queue lots of arguments over which pizza is best, and how pineapple isn't good on either kind.I'm curious about the statement you make above where you say, "Planescape has been like that in D&D for about thirty years."  Outside of 2e games that specifically involved a DM with the Planescape boxed set(s), I haven't seen the planes as being like Planescape.  Yes the DMG mentions Sigil, but it doesn't say much and is easily ignored.Never mind.  I see in the first sentence that you are conflating the Great Wheel with Planescape.  So yeah, that's the default assumed cosmology for D&D.  It's still pretty easy to ignore if you don't like the Great Wheel.</blockquote>