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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9150434" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I never suggested otherwise. I was replying to your assertion that, by ignoring "multiversal" stuff I'm playing D&D without playing D&D.</p><p></p><p>To me, this has nothing to do with any multiverse.</p><p></p><p>One of the characters in my Prince Valiant game was gifted the Mace of St Cuthbert by the Emperor in Constantinople. This does not mean that there is any in-fiction connection between the quasi-Arthurian Britain, Europe and West Asia of that game, and the World of Greyhawk. It just means that it seemed like it might be fun to borrow a trope and drop it into the game.</p><p></p><p>I have used Vecna in one form (as a lich) in a Rolemaster game played using Greyhawk as the setting, and in another form (as a god) in a 4e D&D game played using the default 4e cosmology as the setting. Those are not the same character within their respective fictions, and again there is no in-fiction connection between the settings. It's just fun to use Vecna. If someone wants to use Vecna in their Eberron game, they can knock themselves out! But that doesn't require them, their players, or anyone else, to imagine that, in the fiction, Eberron and Greyhawk are related in any fashion.</p><p></p><p>In the RM/GH game I mentioned just above, I added a third, black, moon to the world of Oerth, and included a tripartite order of Wizards of High Sorcery as part of my setting. This didn't imply that, in the fiction, there was any connection between the world of our game and Krynn or Dragonlance. I just thought that the idea of WoHS, with their coloured robes and their different ethoses and spell options, was fun for a fantasy setting.</p><p></p><p>I've got no view on how old guard it is, but this is not something I've ever done.</p><p></p><p>I have played my knightly cleric Thurgon in a 2nd ed AD&D game (he was a Skills and Powers cleric), in two 4e games (he was a STR paladin with warlord multi-class), in Dungeon World (he was a paladin) and in Burning Wheel (he is a Knight of a Holy Military Order), but this is not <em>literally</em> the same character, within the fiction, moving from world to world. This is me building the same character to play in those different games, using their various mechanics, becase I enjoy him.</p><p></p><p>I've taken no offence at anything anyone has said, let alone WotC whose marketing can include whatever they want.</p><p></p><p>I was just disagreeing with your assertion about what it means to play D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9150434, member: 42582"] I never suggested otherwise. I was replying to your assertion that, by ignoring "multiversal" stuff I'm playing D&D without playing D&D. To me, this has nothing to do with any multiverse. One of the characters in my Prince Valiant game was gifted the Mace of St Cuthbert by the Emperor in Constantinople. This does not mean that there is any in-fiction connection between the quasi-Arthurian Britain, Europe and West Asia of that game, and the World of Greyhawk. It just means that it seemed like it might be fun to borrow a trope and drop it into the game. I have used Vecna in one form (as a lich) in a Rolemaster game played using Greyhawk as the setting, and in another form (as a god) in a 4e D&D game played using the default 4e cosmology as the setting. Those are not the same character within their respective fictions, and again there is no in-fiction connection between the settings. It's just fun to use Vecna. If someone wants to use Vecna in their Eberron game, they can knock themselves out! But that doesn't require them, their players, or anyone else, to imagine that, in the fiction, Eberron and Greyhawk are related in any fashion. In the RM/GH game I mentioned just above, I added a third, black, moon to the world of Oerth, and included a tripartite order of Wizards of High Sorcery as part of my setting. This didn't imply that, in the fiction, there was any connection between the world of our game and Krynn or Dragonlance. I just thought that the idea of WoHS, with their coloured robes and their different ethoses and spell options, was fun for a fantasy setting. I've got no view on how old guard it is, but this is not something I've ever done. I have played my knightly cleric Thurgon in a 2nd ed AD&D game (he was a Skills and Powers cleric), in two 4e games (he was a STR paladin with warlord multi-class), in Dungeon World (he was a paladin) and in Burning Wheel (he is a Knight of a Holy Military Order), but this is not [I]literally[/I] the same character, within the fiction, moving from world to world. This is me building the same character to play in those different games, using their various mechanics, becase I enjoy him. I've taken no offence at anything anyone has said, let alone WotC whose marketing can include whatever they want. I was just disagreeing with your assertion about what it means to play D&D. [/QUOTE]
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