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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 161072" data-attributes="member: 2358">Thanks, UK!&nbsp; CR 24 seems MUCH more fitting for the Solar.&nbsp; But I thought you actually had specific new CRs for some of them?&nbsp; I never knew you came up with a system.On that note, now I actually have some issues with it.&nbsp; Using your system, the Planetar comes out at CR 17, which I still think is too low, mainly because it still has the same CR as a Level 17 Cleric while having MUCH greater powers, including equal spellcasting ability and a bunch of stuff PCs of the same level would not have.My big gripe is with your putting the Balor at CR 16.&nbsp; Perhaps you should rethink the system to be based on something besides HD.&nbsp; You do realize Balors come with Vorpal weapons and Meteor Swarm, right?&nbsp; I think the book's CR 18 is generous, I'd put it more like CR 19 or 20.&nbsp; Or do you honestly believe a group of Level 16 characters could beat a Balor?&nbsp; (Sure, possible with disintegrate, but not bloody likely.)Perhaps there should be modifiers based on special abilities?&nbsp; Your Solar turns out good, but the Planetar and Balor are both STILL underrated by the system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 161072, member: 2358"] Thanks, UK! CR 24 seems MUCH more fitting for the Solar. But I thought you actually had specific new CRs for some of them? I never knew you came up with a system. On that note, now I actually have some issues with it. Using your system, the Planetar comes out at CR 17, which I still think is too low, mainly because it still has the same CR as a Level 17 Cleric while having MUCH greater powers, including equal spellcasting ability and a bunch of stuff PCs of the same level would not have. My big gripe is with your putting the Balor at CR 16. Perhaps you should rethink the system to be based on something besides HD. You do realize Balors come with Vorpal weapons and Meteor Swarm, right? I think the book's CR 18 is generous, I'd put it more like CR 19 or 20. Or do you honestly believe a group of Level 16 characters could beat a Balor? (Sure, possible with disintegrate, but not bloody likely.) Perhaps there should be modifiers based on special abilities? Your Solar turns out good, but the Planetar and Balor are both STILL underrated by the system. [/QUOTE]

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