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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tharivious" data-source="post: 3218281" data-attributes="member: 28105">Well, to play devil's advocate, there are instances where so-called 'blacklisting' is justifiable, such as prolonged harassment by certain players - not characters,  players - that just isn't dealt with because most of the evidence/OOC confrontation occurs strictly off-site and is outside of the jurisdiction of the moderators.  Most instances of what I would call blacklisting that I've seen have been a result of specifically that; continuous, unwanted interference in various scenarios after asking nicely that they step back a few yards.  Usually, this is centered on a player rather than a character, though it can often start with a single character and snowball to absurd proportions.I'll even unapologetically admit to being guilty of that sort of 'blacklisting' on a handful of occasions through the last four or five years (gah, has it really been that long?).  Most either ended in a state where both sides can at least be civil when bumping into each other in a public venue (such as message boards) or with the other side drifting away never to be heard from again (to my knowledge, at least).  I've only had one such case result in a 'hostile' manner, that effectively resulted in the so-called blacklisting remaining in place.Obviously, this isn't always the case, but often enough that sort of motivation does play a part, whether it was merely a perceived case of harassment, or a legitimate ongoing problem.  But still, there are usually reasons behind these sorts of actions beyond "He's too powerful" or "That's poor roleplaying"Following through on playing devil's advocate, though:Would you also consider it childish to, say, ignore someone saying hello to you if you had just been slapped in the face by that same person the night before?  What about after a week?  By the same token, if you had just been slapped in the face without reason, would you or would you not warn your friends to be careful around the person that had slapped you?Or perhaps, if you had a mutual friend in common with the person that slapped you without provocation: Would you say that you wouldn't feel comfortable hanging around with your friend if they were spending time with the one who slapped you?  Would that still be childish?  I think not, it's cautious, which is natural when you get slapped in the face.Now, none of this is to say that there aren't people who choose to blacklist others on shallow, trivial grounds.  Certainly, those people exist, and should probably consider their own actions more carefully to be sure that the slight that drew the ire truly warranted that reaction, but there are also those who valid reasons, and have every right to hold their ground.  Lumping all 'blacklisting' in with the childish, trivial sort is just as dangerous as the blacklisting that actually is childish and trivial.Now, to more pleasant words.  Eh?Indeed.  And quite the clashes those were (assuming you mean the one I'm thinking of... the Hivemind is out of practice).  Not that you're alone, mind you, I'm a veteran of OOC clashes that turn themselves right again, many of which started on the OOC General message boards all those years ago. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Ahh, youth and impetuousness. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Most often, such things can even result in friendships being formed.  You never know, having an OOC conflict can sometimes bring a cool and interesting person into your circle of friends, not the best way to win friends and influence people, of course, but it can happen.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />That happens a lot 'round these boards when you try to make a point.  Believe me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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