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General Player Responsibilities

NotAYakk

Legend
I seem to recall that Bilbo Baggins didn't want to adventure with a bunch of obnoxious dwarves. But anyway, if the PC doesn't have a reason to stick with the party, the GM should assist by providing an incentive for that PC to participate. It takes two to tango.
Yes, but (a) Bilbo had a bond with Gandalf, and (b) a compulsion to give hospitality (like a fate aspect the DM could tap) and follow his promise, and (c) the author can make Bilbo be reluctant but go along with multiple editing passes. Players often don't like it if your DM does multiple editing passes over your decisions. ;)
It is. But from the perspective virtue ethics compared to duty-based or situational ethics. I believe that proposing a list of specific dos and don'ts is ineffective. Instead, I look for players who naturally exhibit the virtues that contribute to my subjective definition of good gameplay (intelligence, humor, creativity, individualism, confidence, well-spokeness (get the joke?), reliability, honesty, etc.)
The goal is to make marginal players good, and poor players marginal.

Having clear expectations helps people do that.

That may not be your goal. You might not consider that worth your bother. You have a supply of players who are awesome and everything is perfect and an unerring ability to find and filter out dross players.

That is fine. But meanwhile, for the rest of us, being able to take someone who is a marginal player, add a rule or two and get a good player out of it, or a good player, and encourage them to be great, has high value.

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To me, this means not having a huge long list of rules. Having a few nice rules that nudge players into being more enjoyable would be my goal.

If you need 50 rules to be an acceptable PC, you just playing whack-a-mole with every poor DM-Player relationship you have had. And that sucks.

Figuring out minimal such rules/responsibilities is the thing, to me.
 

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Lanefan

Victoria Rules
Player responsibilities:

Take the game seriously enough to show up on time for the sessions and to become and remain engaged once there.

At the same time, don't take it so seriously that you tantrum when something bad happens to your PC, or take PC arguments (or romances!) into real life. Separate your PC from yourself and keep 'em that way.

Pay attention, dont interrupt game talk with side chatter, use phones for game-related stuff only (our spells and rules are largely online)...the usual stuff.

Be ready willing and able to give your character some character, different from the last one you played; make it more than just a collection of numbers and dice rolls.

And every now and then pour me a damn beer. :)
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
By this point in the thread, I think that most of the core principles have been covered. I would just state a bit more strongly the need to know the rules. I believe the entire table bears responsibility for knowing the rules. The DM has the role of judge where there is confusion or disagreement over the rules, but it isn't the DMs sole responsibility to memorize the rules before the game and look them up during the game.
 

1) Be there on time.
2) If you need to cancel, do it as early as possible.
3) Know your character.
4) Respect the other players (me included).
5) When it is your turn to act, don't take forever.
6) If you have a familly event, do not come, cancel and be with your familly.

These are my rules. There are a few others but they are game rules, not players' expectations that I am looking for.
 

Hriston

Hero
Yes, but (a) Bilbo had a bond with Gandalf, and (b) a compulsion to give hospitality (like a fate aspect the DM could tap) and follow his promise, and (c) the author can make Bilbo be reluctant but go along with multiple editing passes. Players often don't like it if your DM does multiple editing passes over your decisions. ;)
Bilbo had this flaw: I got something a bit queer in my makeup from the Took side, something that's only waiting for a chance to come out. When the chance came, he took it and earned inspiration by seriously complicating his life.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
This sort of came up in my mind in another thread and I did not want to derail any further.

What do you consider to be player responsibilities in actually sitting down and playing D&D as a group? I don't mean stuff like bringing snacks or not being abusive, etc... I mean as it relates directly to play.

My #1 is that players need to create a character that both WANTS to go on the adventure(s) at hand (roleplaying reluctance is fine as long as it doesn't lead to actual avoidance) and a character thatworks within the context of the PC party. That last bit is both a roleplaying consideration and a mechanical consideration.

Beyond that, all the players should form the party in a way that makes sense for whatever setting and scenario is presented, and allows for a relatively easy process of coming together and bonding. A group of lone wolves is just trouble waiting to happen.

What do you think players should be responsible for in terms of actual play?
I just simplify all that into.....

#1 Don't be a jerk.

That covers wanting to go on adventures, not derailing play through other means, no tantrums, etc.
 

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