Ironwolf said:
perinnmiller said:
The downside of the restriction on PvP though, is that a punk 2nd level tough guy can pretty much mouth off to a higher level character and get away with it.
Hypothetical point, if Veniarus were to start ticking off Cythera in the DWI to a point where it would come to blows, she would remove his head and the eidolon's too without much effort. But she cannot so...
Every uppity 1-2nd level character with too much testosterone is basically allowed to hide behind momma LPF's skirts without fear of reprisal.
This doesn't reassure me in the least, if anything it seems to show how PvP will simply serve to escalate matters.
That is why I was suggesting the arena badge as a pure opt-in. If it is in the rules on the wiki, anyone at anytime when the are feeling annoyed by someone can say...
"I don't see an arena badge on your cloak, and I surely am not wearing one." which SHALL BE DEEMED BY WIKI to equate to a civilized version of
"stop annoying me."
Now, the cruel brush off would be
(Kid bothering a veteran ) kid tosses an insult. "Kid, you have no arena badge. Go to the arena and get a virgin badge. Until then, the civilized laws of this city do not allow me to even acknowledge you." Kid runs off and spends 50 gp for his badge and then comes back.
"Ahh, you have returned, and they have explained the laws and rules to you?" "Yeah, and I am gonna..." "You see kid, I am not wearing a badge. You can leave me alone, or the city guard will drag you away." "But, But... I spent money for this..."
Verbal mentioning of
"the badge" without pulling one out can serve to be the polite, "
In Character" way for anyone to say
"back off a bit, you are getting on my nerves" without using the OOC tag. That way if someone that thought the were in friendly bickering contest gets the
"unmistakeable hint" that the other party thinks they have slipped over the line. If used that way, it can diffuse a squabble before it starts.
In the other direction, pulling a badge out of your pocket and pinning it to your cloak after someone has insulted you is a grand gesture of "You gonna fight or apologize for that!" without having to say a word.
(Would satisfy Borric's case)
I was watching the Veniarus and Fester banter. I couldn't tell if the players were having fun bickering or if one was getting annoyed.
The badge concept is useful for several purposes:
1) No badge: "Nope, not interested in PvP. Try someone else who is advertising they are interested."
2) Just mentioning a badge: "What you thought was playful bickering is actually getting on my nerves. Back off please."
3) Pulling out a badge after having been offended. "Apologize or prepare to get your butt kicked." It is highly recommended the offender back peddles and apologizes at that point.
4) Those that want PvP tests can do so, but it costs a little bit, and they have to specifically advertise they want it.
(probably in the title bar of posts would work)
It should diffuse more tense situations that it provokes. It at least gives a "warning flag" and delay round waiting for a response before the hostilities start. When drawn out of the pocket or mentioned, the badge becomes the codified widgit to signify "I am upset"
(I hate using clean words) and allows the other party time to say "oops!". When worn by the character before entering the Inn or area, it is a "proud warrior wants to spar" banner.
And these thoughts are coming from one who has been in probably the three
ugliest squabbles in the group in the last year.
If we actually move forward on this idea, Grog starts with a white banner with 37 emblems on it. The sight of it coming out at any time should frighten anyone who even owns a badge.