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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7291211" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Actually he has since clarified his post and it helped.</p><p></p><p>turns out the two conflicting sections are conflicting in appearance because they are not referring to the same rules.</p><p></p><p>The section where he describes "i have to decide..." and talks about auto-success vs "calling for rolls" and how calling for rolls sets you up poor strategy chance to be screwed and auto-success is better blah blah was actually not taking about game he ran at all. It was never actually a case of "I[he} has to decide..." at all. It was some other Gms games where apparently the Gm will sometimes assign auto-success if you wait, but will apparently not do so or do so less often if you call out the roll, which is exactly what i asked for clarification on. There seems to be a presumption that somehow the player rolling a dice somehow gets in the way of the whole auto-success or auto-fail decision.</p><p></p><p>For me, the fact that the roll was made does not change the difficulty or consequences. It just saves times most of the time.</p><p></p><p>But that last sentence about how in his games its just ignored is clear about it for his game.</p><p></p><p>and it now does not conflict with the prior example where he said *he* was making the auto-success/fail but then went on to roll results.</p><p></p><p>But, nowhere do i think i said or implied anything in my responses to that poster questioning a GMs authority at the table - except in one of my last posts where i chose to mention that, of course, all GM authority is "allowed" by the players something which sometimes i think needs to be said just as loudly and just as often.</p><p></p><p>EDIT TO ADD</p><p>From Iserith clarification - see here where he explains that section is about other GMs whose decisons are changed or influenced by whether or not player rolls are made. To me that determination of "what succeeds/fails" is not determined by whether or not the roll was made but what the result was with the understanding that it might be the same for any roll 1-20.</p><p>"<span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In games in which I have played, where DMs are inclined to say "Yes" when players ask to roll or accept the result of unsolicited rolls, a player who </span></span><em>doesn't do that (like me) and simply states goal and approach tend to be more successful. You end up rolling less. In my experience, anyway."</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7291211, member: 6919838"] Actually he has since clarified his post and it helped. turns out the two conflicting sections are conflicting in appearance because they are not referring to the same rules. The section where he describes "i have to decide..." and talks about auto-success vs "calling for rolls" and how calling for rolls sets you up poor strategy chance to be screwed and auto-success is better blah blah was actually not taking about game he ran at all. It was never actually a case of "I[he} has to decide..." at all. It was some other Gms games where apparently the Gm will sometimes assign auto-success if you wait, but will apparently not do so or do so less often if you call out the roll, which is exactly what i asked for clarification on. There seems to be a presumption that somehow the player rolling a dice somehow gets in the way of the whole auto-success or auto-fail decision. For me, the fact that the roll was made does not change the difficulty or consequences. It just saves times most of the time. But that last sentence about how in his games its just ignored is clear about it for his game. and it now does not conflict with the prior example where he said *he* was making the auto-success/fail but then went on to roll results. But, nowhere do i think i said or implied anything in my responses to that poster questioning a GMs authority at the table - except in one of my last posts where i chose to mention that, of course, all GM authority is "allowed" by the players something which sometimes i think needs to be said just as loudly and just as often. EDIT TO ADD From Iserith clarification - see here where he explains that section is about other GMs whose decisons are changed or influenced by whether or not player rolls are made. To me that determination of "what succeeds/fails" is not determined by whether or not the roll was made but what the result was with the understanding that it might be the same for any roll 1-20. "[COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana]In games in which I have played, where DMs are inclined to say "Yes" when players ask to roll or accept the result of unsolicited rolls, a player who [/FONT][/COLOR][I]doesn't do that (like me) and simply states goal and approach tend to be more successful. You end up rolling less. In my experience, anyway."[/I] [/QUOTE]
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