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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7292038" data-attributes="member: 6919838">and...&nbsp; &quot;I go over to the bar and try and lift his purse... i rolled a 17&quot; is a PLAYER statement of an action done by his character along with a very efficient handling of the game-side info. (Unless they are actually making an in-character statement as you suggest - maybe like they kind of did a lot over comms in the show Leverage but i rarely myself see my players having their character speak aloud their crime attempts as they do them) I do not make broad assertions about &quot;players who do...&quot; and generally i tend to start with the premise of trusting my players.That really tho is a aftertaste that follows this subject around... by some it seems this issue is about &quot;must be something fishy going on with that player&quot; kind of thing. Seems for some even if pre-rolling in combat is fine, an air of suspicion falls on it happening outside of combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7292038, member: 6919838"] and... "I go over to the bar and try and lift his purse... i rolled a 17" is a PLAYER statement of an action done by his character along with a very efficient handling of the game-side info. (Unless they are actually making an in-character statement as you suggest - maybe like they kind of did a lot over comms in the show Leverage but i rarely myself see my players having their character speak aloud their crime attempts as they do them) I do not make broad assertions about "players who do..." and generally i tend to start with the premise of trusting my players. That really tho is a aftertaste that follows this subject around... by some it seems this issue is about "must be something fishy going on with that player" kind of thing. Seems for some even if pre-rolling in combat is fine, an air of suspicion falls on it happening outside of combat. [/QUOTE]

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