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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7292205" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Well, first of all, my response then would be, “Ok, I’m hearing that your goal is to find out if there are any secret doors in the room. How do you go about trying to find that out?”Ultimately, yes, this will be the result regardless of the approach they describe, although it will be conveyed in response to what they describe doing. For example, if the players approach is, “I take a handful of flour from my bag and walk along the wall, sprinkling flour as I go to see if a draft disturbs their decent pattern” then I will respond, “you make your way carefully around the room this way, thoroughly checking the length of each wall for signs of a draft, but the flour is not blown off its descent path at any point.” Or, if their approach is, “I place the edge of my dagger against the mortar between the wall and the floor and drag it all the way down the wall, looking to see if it catches on anything or slides into a seam anywhere.” My response would be, “As you drag your blade across the mortar, you don’t feel any irregularities that might indicate a secret door or catch.”Correct. And to be clear, I don’t treat rolled actions as a chance to inflict a negative state. What I do is allow players to be successful on any task where failure wouldn’t have a consequence anyway. Or to put it another way, if there’s no reason the player can’t keep trying something until they succeed, I save everyone the time it would take to roll over and over and just narrate them eventually succeeding.How confident are they that the flour wasn’t disturbed or the dagger didn’t catch in anything? 100%.I arrive at that answer by evaluating the player’s approach and its chances of achieving the desired outcome. If you drag your blade along the mortar of a wall that has no seam, there is no possibility of finding the seam of a secret door. You can be 100% confident that there is no seam in the mortar, and as confidant that there is no secret door as the knowledge that there is no seam in the mortar makes you.</blockquote>

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