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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 7293322"><p>I think you're missing my point. The players are still pushing buttons, they're just doing it with a little pizzazz first. I'm not suggesting they <em>ought</em> to roll first or anything like that, even I ask for players to wait for me to call for a roll if for no other reason than simple decorum. What I'm saying is that the players probably <em>know</em> what they're good it. If the players aren't dummies they're going to <em>usually</em> play to their strengths. The "face guy" is still going to make most of the charisma-based checks, (and I want to add for a moment, the fact that Intimidate is a CHA skill is one of my biggest beefs with the skill system, since it's a skill that beefy-types should be good at without having to invest in a score largely irrelevant to their existence), the dex guys are going to make the sneaky checks, and so on and so forth. That's just how the game is set up to function.</p><p></p><p>Your only caveat is that they but a bow on the button before they push it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that's <em>wrong</em> I'm saying that's what it <strong>is</strong>. Button-pushing by any other name is still button-pushing. A smart player can reasonably tailor their in-fiction approach to produce an requested die-roll that allows him to push the button of his desiring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 7293322"] I think you're missing my point. The players are still pushing buttons, they're just doing it with a little pizzazz first. I'm not suggesting they [I]ought[/I] to roll first or anything like that, even I ask for players to wait for me to call for a roll if for no other reason than simple decorum. What I'm saying is that the players probably [I]know[/I] what they're good it. If the players aren't dummies they're going to [I]usually[/I] play to their strengths. The "face guy" is still going to make most of the charisma-based checks, (and I want to add for a moment, the fact that Intimidate is a CHA skill is one of my biggest beefs with the skill system, since it's a skill that beefy-types should be good at without having to invest in a score largely irrelevant to their existence), the dex guys are going to make the sneaky checks, and so on and so forth. That's just how the game is set up to function. Your only caveat is that they but a bow on the button before they push it. I'm not saying that's [I]wrong[/I] I'm saying that's what it [B]is[/B]. Button-pushing by any other name is still button-pushing. A smart player can reasonably tailor their in-fiction approach to produce an requested die-roll that allows him to push the button of his desiring. [/QUOTE]
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