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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7300921" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>First graph... So you are describing a case where the player did not state a goal of jump to the moon... thats fine but has nothing to do with the stated and responded to case, right? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Second graph... can you clarify where i said any of that about you or your players? Come on, sure you can because otherwise you would be inventing something "my argument hinges upon" which was just not there. So lets be clear, the post i responded too was about a case defined by others of a stated "jump to the moon" goal and then later where it was stated clearly "<strong>There is no roll. Why? Because it's a bloody waste of time.</strong> Everyone knows that it's an auto fail, so making the player roll to see whether he gets 2 feet or 3 feet into the air is useless. That's why the DMG says that you roll when the outcome is in doubt. <strong>Rolling for every little thing drags the game down like not pulling the anchor up on a boat before sailing off</strong>". In that specific case i responded to it was clear the poster was referencing players defining impossible goals, the time it takes to resolve the rolls and the frequency of those rolls and the problems they cause.</p><p></p><p>So it does not seem that out of line to wonder about how often those things do indeed happen in their game that they need a process to cut down that time.</p><p></p><p>And, again, since you were not that poster, its baffling how you take that response to someone else's post as being something focused on or aimed at your or your players. </p><p></p><p>Are you and the other poster the same person under different IDs? if so that might explain your transference.</p><p></p><p>Are you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7300921, member: 6919838"] First graph... So you are describing a case where the player did not state a goal of jump to the moon... thats fine but has nothing to do with the stated and responded to case, right? Second graph... can you clarify where i said any of that about you or your players? Come on, sure you can because otherwise you would be inventing something "my argument hinges upon" which was just not there. So lets be clear, the post i responded too was about a case defined by others of a stated "jump to the moon" goal and then later where it was stated clearly "[B]There is no roll. Why? Because it's a bloody waste of time.[/B] Everyone knows that it's an auto fail, so making the player roll to see whether he gets 2 feet or 3 feet into the air is useless. That's why the DMG says that you roll when the outcome is in doubt. [B]Rolling for every little thing drags the game down like not pulling the anchor up on a boat before sailing off[/B]". In that specific case i responded to it was clear the poster was referencing players defining impossible goals, the time it takes to resolve the rolls and the frequency of those rolls and the problems they cause. So it does not seem that out of line to wonder about how often those things do indeed happen in their game that they need a process to cut down that time. And, again, since you were not that poster, its baffling how you take that response to someone else's post as being something focused on or aimed at your or your players. Are you and the other poster the same person under different IDs? if so that might explain your transference. Are you? [/QUOTE]
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