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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7300955" data-attributes="member: 6919838">Ok so please i will exit that dance thereIn your stated case you describe a table, the player declares an action then you stop before resolution to tell them it clearly looks like it weighs a ton and then the player uses that info to change their mind.i reference it as a case of not having given the player enough info to make a reasonable choice.then now you come back with how not giving an exact weight may not have been a mistake.Not going to chase that rabbit down the hole with you any further. If you don't want to call it a mistake, thats great. i didn't call it a mistake either. i just observed that it seemed we both realized it was not enough info to lead or help  the players to make reasonable choices. No mention of exact weight was made by me either and my example gave even more vague reference to its weight, no mention of "a ton" but rather that it looked like it was heavier than they could move on their own.So, wherever you want to go with exact weight vs mistake vs descriptive needs etc... thats fine.</blockquote>