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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9077815" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Right, but you are getting the argument backwards, and then ignoring the problem with &quot;meaningful choices&quot; Here, let me give you a very meaningful choice, right now. Door #1 or Door #2? Take all the time you need to consider all the advantages and disadvantages of your choice. Oh... you can't. You actually cannot make a meaningful choice in this scenario, because you lack information. It is a blind guess. If I told you door #1 had a lifetime supply of sustainably sourced fish, and Door #2 had a land permit that gives you ownership of 600 Acres in Montana... then you could make a meaningful decision. You can weigh those things, consider them. Now, look at short rests. First off, the player cannot make meaningful decisions about their resources... because they lack information. The monk can't meaningfully decide if spending three ki is worth the cost, if they don't know their daily limit. They must assume that their daily limit is a zero short rest limit. But even short rests aren't a meaningful decision for them, because the answer is generally yes if possible. And if it isn't possible.... that's usually because OTHER players who don't need it decided it wasn't going to happen. You don't actually get to decide, unless you can convince them that your needs outweigh their lack of need. And that isn't a decision, because if you remove that... then every time you can take the rest you will, barring outside time pressures, which again, make it not a choice. It isn't a choice between &quot;do I recover or do I die because the world imploded&quot; that isn't a choice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9077815, member: 6801228"] Right, but you are getting the argument backwards, and then ignoring the problem with "meaningful choices" Here, let me give you a very meaningful choice, right now. Door #1 or Door #2? Take all the time you need to consider all the advantages and disadvantages of your choice. Oh... you can't. You actually cannot make a meaningful choice in this scenario, because you lack information. It is a blind guess. If I told you door #1 had a lifetime supply of sustainably sourced fish, and Door #2 had a land permit that gives you ownership of 600 Acres in Montana... then you could make a meaningful decision. You can weigh those things, consider them. Now, look at short rests. First off, the player cannot make meaningful decisions about their resources... because they lack information. The monk can't meaningfully decide if spending three ki is worth the cost, if they don't know their daily limit. They must assume that their daily limit is a zero short rest limit. But even short rests aren't a meaningful decision for them, because the answer is generally yes if possible. And if it isn't possible.... that's usually because OTHER players who don't need it decided it wasn't going to happen. You don't actually get to decide, unless you can convince them that your needs outweigh their lack of need. And that isn't a decision, because if you remove that... then every time you can take the rest you will, barring outside time pressures, which again, make it not a choice. It isn't a choice between "do I recover or do I die because the world imploded" that isn't a choice. [/QUOTE]

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