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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fluffybunbunkittens" data-source="post: 9203481" data-attributes="member: 7037492">You can Dodge as main action and attack as bonus action through the early levels...I like where a Rogue dip can be really useful for Monk, but it's not required to function. Let's look at the impact of delaying your Monk progress by 1 level (and bold the winner)...Monk1/Rogue1 vs Monk2 - multi doesn't have Ki abilities (but is a goddamn terror with 3 attacks + sneak attack)Monk2/Rogue1 vs Monk3 - full has subclass already (and Deflect Attacks omg)Monk3/Rogue1 vs Monk4 - full gets ASI/featMonk4/Rogue1 vs Monk5 - full has Extra Attack (and Stunning Strike)Monk5/Rogue1 vs Monk6 - full has magical handsSo the Rogue is unquestionably ahead on lv2. At lv6+, when Monk is no longer getting something every level, the Rogue Monk is mostly just losing out on 1 Ki, so this is another time where they are likely better, but by this time, an extra attack (plus 1d6 from sneak attack) isn't as big of a deal.Expertise is pretty damn tempting, but at least Skill Expertise exists if you want it for just one specific skill.No, so this is just business as usual. I always viewed Monk unarmed attacks as being purely for the bonus action attacks.</blockquote>