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<blockquote data-quote="WizO_Reesa" data-source="post: 2558591"><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I have read over each post here and I thought I would issue some of my own thoughts.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">There are many reasons why someone may not have noticed the dying person. Just because you enter a room and see it's full doesn't mean the people are actively watching their screen. Often times people enter the tavern or emporium and sit there... then wander away from their computer or go surfing the net on a different screen. So, you bring your character in dying and no one jumps to your aid. Maybe that's just because there are actually not as many active people as you think. Also, not everyone is skilled in following every conversation that happens on screen. I do it constantly, because I am used to it. Some others focus only on those who are in the conversation they are currently in.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">As Jardel said, there have been far too many cases where people have come in all bloodied, dying, etc that it's over done and it can get to be a bit much. Now, that doesn't mean there isn't an actual issue behind your character. I believe it was Nugan who asked why some people come in and are healed instantly and others aren't. If you're friends with someone and you see your pal is injured or hurt, you are far more likely to go out of your way for them than you are for a complete stranger.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">As far as the PM issue goes, I'm going to have to state what I've seen in my history of being on site. Often, sadly far too often, you Pm someone with either a tip or asking what's going on and are met with rude comments. I've been on the receiving end of it a few times as my non-WizO characters. After a couple times, you get to the point where you just don't want to bother, for the sake of getting some nasty comment. I've tried to help people out as a WizO and have received comments like "yes, I know what I'm doing. I've been around here for many years". You get to where you don't want to help out.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Also... it is <em>very</em> difficult to tell which players are new, and which ones are crying for help. I tried one night to help out a character who entered the CRT yelling (typing all caps) about needing a healer, needing help. I PM'd the player asking if they wanted my help (as I do with anyone who I try to help/heal etc). I got no reply, but there was more yelling in the room about needing a cleric. Once again, I tried Pming them, receiving no replies. Finally I had Reesa get up from where she was sitting, walk over to the guy and apply healing. He looked at me, so I know I was seen. Immediately after the healing I had just said I gave him, he started yelling to the screen how he needed healing. I gave up and ignored the player. Eventually the character got tired and left.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I will admit that it is very difficult to get involved with players, even to go up and talk to them, as Jardel (I believe it was) suggested. I watched one night as a character (who I guessed was new since I had to give them some helpful hints about the Golem and such) make 3 attempts to get into a conversation by simply voicing a comment regarding the subject they were talking about. Not one person in that group even acknowledged the person who had said they went up to the group, made a comment in regards to the subject they were discussing, or tried three times to get involved. I feel that is one of the big problems seen in the ISRP Area, which is perhaps why new players/characters do these crazy, off the wall, things to try and gain notice. Just talking doesn't work.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I am honestly unsure of what the solution is. Suggestions of posting links, guides, etc is not going to work. I have talked to people and suggested the information posted on the boards - the rules, discussions, etc - and I have been informed they aren't about to waste time reading information, they don't check the boards, etc. People use CheetaChat and that takes away the banners, so posting it in the banner doesn't work for everyone. PMing people to look at this or that, or to do things (from a WizO status) doesn't work either. We've asked people repeatedly to put their emails in their profiles so we can have access to it, or so it can help in verification that it is indeed your character you're asking about, and we are still finding a lot of people without email addresses.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Unfortuntely, there is no simply answer. People are not able to interact with others of various playing styles for whatever reason. Some people have very strong character backgrounds, with many issues, that would make him or her act a certain way. As Jardel said, in real life people ignore issues all the time. In Toronto, people walked past an older woman who was left passed out on the side walk. Other times, they have walked around people bleeding. As Nevine said, in real life CPR they do instruct you not to get involved if you're not comfortable. I once took Emergency First Aid and the instructor said these important rules:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">1) Never act without asking the person for their permission (unless they are unconscious (forgive bad spelling) and unable to be asked. (Even ambulance attendants must wait for someone to pass out before they can take them if they refuse help)</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">2) If you do not feel comfortable or are not willing to stay with it until the end, do not do anything. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I honestly believe it is unfair for you to expect everyone to react with you. (You being a collective group, not a set person) Even Reesa, a character I have been playing on site for about 5 years now, who is a fairly prominent character is often left to sit alone or is ignored. It happens. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">My advice for the best things to do for the first times or new characters - watch. Come into the room and watch what's going on. If you can find something to react to, interact with, then go for it. I watched one night as a character entered the Emporium. The guy commented on the surroundings and just had fun with the setting, others took notice. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I think the best thing is to have fun yourself. If you can be happy interacting with the setting - talking to the Golem, dealing with vendors, etc - then people will start to take notice. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to take notice. It's unrealistic to expect anyone to take notice. Something as simple as propping your feet up on a table might gain someone's notice. The big blown out "I need help!" issues undoubtedly will get you ignored because they have been done far too often.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Just my opinions,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Reesa</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizO_Reesa, post: 2558591"] [color=blue][font=tahoma][size=2] I have read over each post here and I thought I would issue some of my own thoughts. There are many reasons why someone may not have noticed the dying person. Just because you enter a room and see it's full doesn't mean the people are actively watching their screen. Often times people enter the tavern or emporium and sit there... then wander away from their computer or go surfing the net on a different screen. So, you bring your character in dying and no one jumps to your aid. Maybe that's just because there are actually not as many active people as you think. Also, not everyone is skilled in following every conversation that happens on screen. I do it constantly, because I am used to it. Some others focus only on those who are in the conversation they are currently in. As Jardel said, there have been far too many cases where people have come in all bloodied, dying, etc that it's over done and it can get to be a bit much. Now, that doesn't mean there isn't an actual issue behind your character. I believe it was Nugan who asked why some people come in and are healed instantly and others aren't. If you're friends with someone and you see your pal is injured or hurt, you are far more likely to go out of your way for them than you are for a complete stranger. As far as the PM issue goes, I'm going to have to state what I've seen in my history of being on site. Often, sadly far too often, you Pm someone with either a tip or asking what's going on and are met with rude comments. I've been on the receiving end of it a few times as my non-WizO characters. After a couple times, you get to the point where you just don't want to bother, for the sake of getting some nasty comment. I've tried to help people out as a WizO and have received comments like "yes, I know what I'm doing. I've been around here for many years". You get to where you don't want to help out. Also... it is [i]very[/i] difficult to tell which players are new, and which ones are crying for help. I tried one night to help out a character who entered the CRT yelling (typing all caps) about needing a healer, needing help. I PM'd the player asking if they wanted my help (as I do with anyone who I try to help/heal etc). I got no reply, but there was more yelling in the room about needing a cleric. Once again, I tried Pming them, receiving no replies. Finally I had Reesa get up from where she was sitting, walk over to the guy and apply healing. He looked at me, so I know I was seen. Immediately after the healing I had just said I gave him, he started yelling to the screen how he needed healing. I gave up and ignored the player. Eventually the character got tired and left. I will admit that it is very difficult to get involved with players, even to go up and talk to them, as Jardel (I believe it was) suggested. I watched one night as a character (who I guessed was new since I had to give them some helpful hints about the Golem and such) make 3 attempts to get into a conversation by simply voicing a comment regarding the subject they were talking about. Not one person in that group even acknowledged the person who had said they went up to the group, made a comment in regards to the subject they were discussing, or tried three times to get involved. I feel that is one of the big problems seen in the ISRP Area, which is perhaps why new players/characters do these crazy, off the wall, things to try and gain notice. Just talking doesn't work. I am honestly unsure of what the solution is. Suggestions of posting links, guides, etc is not going to work. I have talked to people and suggested the information posted on the boards - the rules, discussions, etc - and I have been informed they aren't about to waste time reading information, they don't check the boards, etc. People use CheetaChat and that takes away the banners, so posting it in the banner doesn't work for everyone. PMing people to look at this or that, or to do things (from a WizO status) doesn't work either. We've asked people repeatedly to put their emails in their profiles so we can have access to it, or so it can help in verification that it is indeed your character you're asking about, and we are still finding a lot of people without email addresses. Unfortuntely, there is no simply answer. People are not able to interact with others of various playing styles for whatever reason. Some people have very strong character backgrounds, with many issues, that would make him or her act a certain way. As Jardel said, in real life people ignore issues all the time. In Toronto, people walked past an older woman who was left passed out on the side walk. Other times, they have walked around people bleeding. As Nevine said, in real life CPR they do instruct you not to get involved if you're not comfortable. I once took Emergency First Aid and the instructor said these important rules: 1) Never act without asking the person for their permission (unless they are unconscious (forgive bad spelling) and unable to be asked. (Even ambulance attendants must wait for someone to pass out before they can take them if they refuse help) 2) If you do not feel comfortable or are not willing to stay with it until the end, do not do anything. I honestly believe it is unfair for you to expect everyone to react with you. (You being a collective group, not a set person) Even Reesa, a character I have been playing on site for about 5 years now, who is a fairly prominent character is often left to sit alone or is ignored. It happens. My advice for the best things to do for the first times or new characters - watch. Come into the room and watch what's going on. If you can find something to react to, interact with, then go for it. I watched one night as a character entered the Emporium. The guy commented on the surroundings and just had fun with the setting, others took notice. I think the best thing is to have fun yourself. If you can be happy interacting with the setting - talking to the Golem, dealing with vendors, etc - then people will start to take notice. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to take notice. It's unrealistic to expect anyone to take notice. Something as simple as propping your feet up on a table might gain someone's notice. The big blown out "I need help!" issues undoubtedly will get you ignored because they have been done far too often. Just my opinions, Reesa[/size][/font][/color][font=tahoma][size=2][/size][/font][size=2][/size] [/QUOTE]
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