Please rate Eschew Materials

[RigaMortus]

This is a feat, IMHO, that all Sorcerers should get for free.

We've house ruled this before this feat was ever printed. IMC, we treat Sorcerers more like "mutants" from X-Men. In that, they do not need material components to use their powers (unless they have a GP or XP cost to them of course) and that their powers are latent, they start to manifest as they grow older (but that is more of a character background thing then a game mechanic thing).

 

[Spatzimaus]

This is a feat, IMHO, that all Sorcerers should get for free.

Yet another person in total agreement. In fact, giving all Sorcerers both this and Signature Spell (pick a theme, your spells' appearances follow this theme, which increases spellcraft DC to identify) wouldn't be too out of whack IMO. It's still nothing compared to the wads of metamagic Feats the Wizards get, but it fits more with the style of a Sorcerer.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Just bumping this as it seems we got our wish: As per the new feat list on the WoTC site Eschew Materials will be a General feat, rather than Metamagic.

Now it is a perfect feat for Sorcerers. Although I still question the need for the prerequisite: Any other Metamagic feat. Hopefully this is going away as well. Otherwise, it would be hard to start a Sorcerer at 1st level with Eschew Materials.

Well, it would make sense for the prerequisite "Any other Metamagic feat" to change to "Any other General feat", wouldn't it? And Sorcerers have Simple Weapon Proficiency as a class feature - essentially a virtual General feat, and virtual feats work for prerequisites

After all, you can't need "Any other Metamagic feat" when it's not itself a Metamagic feat, can you?

-Hyp.

 

[Cloudgatherer]

I'd make a couple minor changes to the feat....

First, using it does not count as metamagic (i.e. no full round casting time). Change its type to general accomplishes the same results.

Second, I think it should ignore 0gp cost focuses that have nothing to do directly with the spell. I can understand needing the gem for trap the soul, but a feather to fly? Even if you take this feat, you still *need* a components pouch for all the small stupid foci.

I agree about the sorcerers getting this for free. I think that's an excellent suggestion. I'm currently playing an epic sorcerer who took this feat as well as Ignore Material Components. Auto-Still and Silent combined with this and he just *thinks* magic. It's not a powerhouse combo, but fits my concept of the "willful sorcerer."

 

[WattsHumphrey]

I was just over in the thread listing the 3.5 feat list, and I found it interesting that Eschew Materials is indeed listed as a general feat.

This could be a typo, but it is interesting.

link( http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rs/20030415a )