Please rate Pain Touch

[smetzger]

Please rate the usefulness/must have of Pain Touch.

Pain Touch [General]
REQ: Base Attack +2, Stunning Fist, Wis 19+
Victims of a successful stunning attack are subject to such debilitating pain that they are nauseated for 1 round after being stunned for 1 round as usual. Creatures that are immune to stunning attacks are also immune to this feat. As are any creatures that are more than one size category larger than the user of this feat. Sword and Fist, pg 8.

 

[Victim]

I like it. It allows for monks to focus on their stunning attacks if they choose. Mechanically, it almost turns a stunning attack into a 2 round stun. That can't be bad.

 

[Stalker0]

The feat is really limited in that you can't use it on anything larger than the person, which makes it practically unusable by small monks.

However, it does deliver a decent punch as there isn't a seperate save for the nausation (if that's a word).

 

[smetzger]

The feat is really limited in that you can't use it on anything larger than the person, which makes it practically unusable by small monks.

"...more than one size category larger..."

Therefore a small Monk could use Pain Touch on a Medium size creature but not a Large creature.

 

[Elder-Basilisk]

I voted 7--it's a feat that will have wide application and can set a monk's opponent into a real downward spiral if he fails a save. (Since it makes him easier to hit with the next stunning pain touch).

On the other hand, it's prereqs are very stiff (wis 19+) and with that kind of wisdom, a monk could have blindsight 5' radius.

And it doesn't work on a few large classes of creatures--undead, constructs, elementals, etc.

 

[Kraedin]

I voted 7: For a monk who focuses on stunning attack, this is a pretty good feat. It also is synergistic with the monk's role as a "wizard-killer", due to the crippling effect nausea has on a spellcaster.

 

[Roland Delacroix]

Smetzer: Please set your polls to allow multiple choices and make "and Cool" a seperate choice. I thought this feat was below average, but still pretty cool. Ummm, i guess if you look at WotC strategy with the cleric they consider 'cool' and 'uncool' a balancing factor, but I don't

 

[smetzger]

Smetzer: Please set your polls to allow multiple choices and make "and Cool" a seperate choice. I thought this feat was below average, but still pretty cool. Ummm, i guess if you look at WotC strategy with the cleric they consider 'cool' and 'uncool' a balancing factor, but I don't

I am really trying to get a hard number between 1 and 10 for the likely-hood of people choosing this feat. So, all coolness and effectiveness need to be all lumped together.

I think its a pretty good feat, not sure why they made the Wis requirement so high.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

6: It's very useful if you qualify for it, and if your stunning fist hits home.

 

[smetzger]

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