D&D 5E Point Buy vs Rolling for Stats

[Oofta]

It's all "drought-tolerant California natives" now.
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OK, they're weeds.
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Dead weeds, this time of year.

So you're saying your lawn looks something like this?



I blame those darn kids.

 

[Caliban]

Do the math.

Didn't need to. I could tell at a glance that the numbers were BS - which is why I was irritated by your claim.

Lets say I was because 1) I was and 2) I would have to have been off by many orders of magnitude, otherwise.

Exactly - it looked like you were making a BS claim with obviously made up numbers. The total population of America is totally meaningless in the context of what I was saying. Why you thought I would follow you on that leap of illogic is beyond me.

Exactly. Folks appeal to popularity when advocating for one opinion or version or way of playing the game, but they forget that, were appeals to popularity not a fallacy, they'd be proof that D&D is crap, because so few people, relative to how many people there are, actually play it.

I wasn't making an appeal to popularity. I was stating a fact - there are indeed thousands of AL players who enjoy the game despite using point buy. I don't know or particularly care what fraction of the total population of D&D players that is, and care even less what total fraction of the American (or world!) population it is. Because that isn't the point I was making.

 

[Maxperson]

So random-in-order, all the way? Fair 'nuff. People, can't choose their race, assigned sex, nor the circumstances of their birth, either.
Noble background? Random.

I've played in games where birth circumstances, backgrounds and race were all randomly rolled. I had lots of fun. Sex would be the only one of that group that I haven't randomized. For PCs anyway. I've randomized some NPC genders.

 

[Maxperson]

It was in no way clear. I was referring to a subset of D&D players, you would clearly have to be referring to the total number of D&D players.

I easily understood that he was referring to the general population. I didn't even have to sit down and figure out the math. 0.001% couldn't possibly be out of the total number of D&D players..

Now you claim otherwise. Fine, you were in a hurry to be condescending and made an unclear statement.

It wasn't unclear and was a very funny joke. That's why I gave him a laugh.

Let's say you were in fact referring to the total population of America.

He was.

How is that relevant to anything we have been discussing?

Well, the population of D&D players in America is drawn from the general population, so there's some relevance right there.

 

[Caliban]

I easily understood that he was referring to the general population. I didn't even have to sit down and figure out the math. 0.001% couldn't possibly be out of the total number of D&D players..

I'm not surprised. Poor logic is a special skill of yours.

Well, the population of D&D players in America is drawn from the general population, so there's some relevance right there.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Tony Vargas]

I'm not surprised. Poor logic is a special skill of yours.

Stopped clocks an' all... ;P

Seriously, though, it was painfully obvious. We're all nerds here, we know what ~0.001% means. You can't possibly have entertained the thought that I was asserting hundreds of millions of D&Ders in America, alone.

I've played in games where birth circumstances, backgrounds and race were all randomly rolled. I had lots of fun. Sex would be the only one of that group that I haven't randomized.

Exactly how I ran my AD&D campaign c1985.

So you're saying your lawn looks something like this?

Much smaller, no skull, fewer rocks.

 

[Yardiff]

I played in Organized Play for near a year because it was all that was available to me at the time. But I hated the way stats were done, I understood why it was done that way, but still hated it.

 

[Caliban]

Seriously, though, it was painfully obvious.

It really wasn't. But whatever it takes to make you feel superior, right?

We're all nerds here, we know what ~0.001% means. You can't possibly have entertained the thought that I was asserting hundreds of millions of D&Ders in America, alone.

Wow, once again you assume you know exactly how other people think, despite all evidence to the contrary. An impressive display of cognitive dissonance.

I told you exactly what I thought. Since you think I'm lying about it, I believe we are done here.

 

[Tony Vargas]

It really wasn't.

Math is not a terribly ambiguous language.

I told you exactly what I thought.

There was a misunderstanding, I hope it's been resolved.

I believe we are done here.

I am fine with that.

 

[Maxperson]

Exactly how I ran my AD&D campaign c1985.

Maybe it was the era. We played that way from 1984 to about 1992 or so. Backgrounds were still random(Central Casting for the win), and stats were still random and in order, but we started picking our race.