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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4541916" data-attributes="member: 70778">They may have well have just made class books at that rate.I think that all should be there from the beginning that is considered core. After that it just isn't core, if it isn't part of the first set of books.Nothing else should expect it to be a part of the average library for gamers.I always hated an adventure of something else telling me I needed 6 other books. STOP IT!If it isn't in the first 3 books PHB/DMG/MM, then it had better be in the adventure or campaign books, etc I am currently reading.They pretty much DID make the heroic tier PHB and put it in the starter set didn't they?I think there should be as few core books as possible to let people choose what excess/extra material they want.I think tiered books as the only initial offering would have flopped and no one bought it.Races take about 2 pages each as is and the first page is less than half information and more than half imagery and white space. Want more races, then cut down on the wasted space.Each power card sheet for DDI can be printed 9 per page landscape. IIRC there is a page with only 3/4 powers on it. There more space saved.There were a ton of ways to reduce wasted space and include other races of classes in the initial PHB.I think the biggest problem is all the crap from 3rd that was taken out of core, in order to add new stuff just to make 4th edition speshul. Dragonborn and tieflings didn't need to displace gnomes and half-orcs.They shouldn't have made the books look flashy shiny, and made them for best use.I think a proper distribution of "roles" would have worked better as well to include a better class selection, but they kept the old classes for consistency and screw-up role divisions with a single controller... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />There is like 4 pages of skills, 32 pages on combat, and 45 pages on equipment.It is great that those magic items are somewhere players can find them, but still wasted space with little jumping people pictures. But does each item need the prices repeated when they are already in a master table along with their item bonus? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />Cut the wasted space and full page art, and add more information.Sell a D&D picture book separate for those needing/wanting excess imagery.So basically use the space more wisely to get more information in there. Don't have a 1 inch border/margin around a whole page with text on it and all those classes and races could have probably easily fit that people miss most.Gnome, half-orc, druid, barbarian, etc.</blockquote>

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