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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stoutstien" data-source="post: 7911389" data-attributes="member: 7020569">The worse part is the barbarian falls off both as the one who can take the most damage and the one who deals alot of damage.even in the best-case scenario where the Barbarian has enough rage for every round and every encounter all day long and never fails a ST to knock them out of it, a champion fighter still beats them in both categories. The only Barbarian that's really worth it is ancestral guardian or totem for wolf if you have 2 or more party members I can take advantage of the constant advantage.On the defensive side the difference between a fighter wearing plate/shield/defense style vs a barbarian with a shield is almost a flat out tie.Once you factor in second wind and the fact that at least once The barbarians going to get hit with not raging it shifts into the fighters favor.</blockquote>