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<blockquote data-quote="Gold Roger" data-source="post: 5933188" data-attributes="member: 33904">Well, if we managed to find the crux of a problem, we've hit a high point in the grand history of internet discussion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I see why people like abilities like this one. I once thought I did when 4th was released and very exited for how abstract it was. But in the end, it didn't work out in the long run for my D&amp;D. There's certain styles where I can see the approach exelling. 4th edition would be still my &quot;go-to&quot; game for a high action secret service eberron campaign based on the likes of James Bond or the latest Mission Impossible movie.But there are styles I feel belong to D&amp;D (dare I call it oldschool?) where such abilities are completelyx misplaced. I feel enough people exclusively or primarily play such styles that they should be well supported and just stating &quot;leave out what doesn't belong&quot; is not support.I like the slayer as concept for theme. I guess if I get an alternative for the, I and many others might already be happy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gold Roger, post: 5933188, member: 33904"] Well, if we managed to find the crux of a problem, we've hit a high point in the grand history of internet discussion ;) I see why people like abilities like this one. I once thought I did when 4th was released and very exited for how abstract it was. But in the end, it didn't work out in the long run for my D&D. There's certain styles where I can see the approach exelling. 4th edition would be still my "go-to" game for a high action secret service eberron campaign based on the likes of James Bond or the latest Mission Impossible movie. But there are styles I feel belong to D&D (dare I call it oldschool?) where such abilities are completelyx misplaced. I feel enough people exclusively or primarily play such styles that they should be well supported and just stating "leave out what doesn't belong" is not support. I like the slayer as concept for theme. I guess if I get an alternative for the, I and many others might already be happy. [/QUOTE]

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