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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9272151" data-attributes="member: 93670">I mentioned this with good reason[spoiler=&quot;we don't have finalized spells&quot;][/spoiler]You are stil relying on bad reasoning atop negative charop.&nbsp; Lots of cantrips scale and actually provide rogue something useful...[spoiler=&quot;for example&quot;][ATTACH=full]348057[/ATTACH][/spoiler]That cuts both ways, you are just trying to choose a victor and imply anything else would be denying them that they deserve... For example:[ispoiler]&nbsp; Most classes that do not rely on ranged/melee weapons for their &quot;at-will&quot; damage do not have class features that improve their ranged/melee weapon damage&nbsp; in such a way that would make it desirable for them to use ranged/melee weapons, let alone one that does not scale.&nbsp; [/ISpoiler] That is also your point - there's very little reason to deny extra or sneak attack to a character that acquires weapon proficiency through non-class means because their class isn't designed around weapon use.&nbsp; If that wording looks familiar, it should, look at the quote above it.Weird you would choose a cantrip incapable of meaningfully synergizing with or adding to the rogue's toolbelt&nbsp; rather than one of the many that could or acknowledging that we already had one example of a newly capable cantrip even though I was able to name quite a few other than truestrike.&nbsp; Even produce flame's capability to shed light provides more value to as rogue than firebolt &amp; both the published+UA version does that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9272151, member: 93670"] I mentioned this with good reason [spoiler="we don't have finalized spells"] [/spoiler] You are stil relying on bad reasoning atop negative charop. Lots of cantrips scale and actually provide rogue something useful... [spoiler="for example"] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1708628587268.png"]348057[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] That cuts both ways, you are just trying to choose a victor and imply anything else would be denying them that they deserve... For example:[ispoiler] Most classes that do not rely on ranged/melee weapons for their "at-will" damage do not have class features that improve their ranged/melee weapon damage in such a way that would make it desirable for them to use ranged/melee weapons, let alone one that does not scale. [/ISpoiler] That is [I][U]also[/U][/I] your point - there's very little reason to deny extra or sneak attack to a character that acquires weapon proficiency through non-class means because their class isn't designed around weapon use. If that wording looks familiar, it should, look at the quote above it. Weird you would choose a cantrip incapable of meaningfully synergizing with or adding to the rogue's toolbelt rather than one of the many that could or acknowledging that we already had one example of a newly capable cantrip even though I was able to name quite a few other than truestrike. Even produce flame's capability to shed light provides more value to as rogue than firebolt & both the published+UA version does that. [/QUOTE]

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