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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7568175" data-attributes="member: 22779">How is &quot;I jump onto Bob's spear&quot; an event that through &quot;blind luck/serendipity/whatever happened to do something improbable that broke the spell and saved the day, &quot;?I've been around frogs a fair bit.&nbsp; I've never seen on jump onto a spear.&nbsp; In fact, even jumping in front of a car is pretty rare.&nbsp; You generally see them sitting on the road and getting run over rather than committing suicide by front tire. There is a mechanical issue here too.&nbsp; Damage that breaks the polymorph carries over.&nbsp; So, how do you jump on a spear deliberately and only do 1 point of damage?&nbsp; I mean, we're talking about deliberately killing yourself here.&nbsp; Why doesn't the instant death damage simply kill the fighter all the way?&nbsp; &quot;Oh, you jumped onto the spear, impaling your heart?&nbsp; Ok, you are dead dead.&nbsp; Your corpse is now hanging on Bob's spear.&quot;Oh, wait, that's being a bad DM isn't it?&nbsp; That would be a totally dick move by the DM, right?&nbsp; After all, the player claimed he was doing something that the character has absolutely no way of actually doing (I want to do 1 hp of damage to myself), but, as a DM, I'm supposed to just suck it up and go with it?Look, I'm the last person to talk about DM entitlement and whatnot, but, sheesh, talk about a player abusing the rules.&nbsp; A character that has no actual idea how to break the spell is performing an action that the character would have no way of knowing how to do.&nbsp; At the very least, this should be a critical hit on the fighter character.&nbsp; Deliberately impaling yourself has to count as a crit, at the very least.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7568175, member: 22779"] How is "I jump onto Bob's spear" an event that through "blind luck/serendipity/whatever happened to do something improbable that broke the spell and saved the day, "? I've been around frogs a fair bit. I've never seen on jump onto a spear. In fact, even jumping in front of a car is pretty rare. You generally see them sitting on the road and getting run over rather than committing suicide by front tire. There is a mechanical issue here too. Damage that breaks the polymorph carries over. So, how do you jump on a spear deliberately and only do 1 point of damage? I mean, we're talking about deliberately killing yourself here. Why doesn't the instant death damage simply kill the fighter all the way? "Oh, you jumped onto the spear, impaling your heart? Ok, you are dead dead. Your corpse is now hanging on Bob's spear." Oh, wait, that's being a bad DM isn't it? That would be a totally dick move by the DM, right? After all, the player claimed he was doing something that the character has absolutely no way of actually doing (I want to do 1 hp of damage to myself), but, as a DM, I'm supposed to just suck it up and go with it? Look, I'm the last person to talk about DM entitlement and whatnot, but, sheesh, talk about a player abusing the rules. A character that has no actual idea how to break the spell is performing an action that the character would have no way of knowing how to do. At the very least, this should be a critical hit on the fighter character. Deliberately impaling yourself has to count as a crit, at the very least. [/QUOTE]

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