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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7568599" data-attributes="member: 97077">So it really is about the player's thoughts here then, why he or she chose the particular action. If it's a reasonable thing to happen in the context of the fiction, why does that matter to you?Even if you feel the player is trying to gain a particular advantage, isn't that what players are supposed to do when faced with a challenge? And if that's an advantage you don't want to provide in the challenge, what responsibility do you suppose the DM has for setting up the situation where that choice is among the most optimal? Wouldn't it be smarter for the DM to just turn the fighter into a killer whale if he or she is going to be annoyed that the player chooses to suicide the 1-hp toad to get out of the spell? Or, for that matter, change the troll's weakness to something other than fire? Why set up a situation where &quot;metagaming&quot; is the best choice, then harshly judge the player for taking it? Seems counterproductive to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7568599, member: 97077"] So it really [I]is[/I] about the player's thoughts here then, why he or she chose the particular action. If it's a reasonable thing to happen in the context of the fiction, why does that matter to you? Even if you feel the player is trying to gain a particular advantage, isn't that what players are [I]supposed[/I] to do when faced with a challenge? And if that's an advantage you don't want to provide in the challenge, what responsibility do you suppose the DM has for setting up the situation where that choice is among the most optimal? Wouldn't it be smarter for the DM to just turn the fighter into a killer whale if he or she is going to be annoyed that the player chooses to suicide the 1-hp toad to get out of the spell? Or, for that matter, change the troll's weakness to something other than fire? Why set up a situation where "metagaming" is the best choice, then harshly judge the player for taking it? Seems counterproductive to me. [/QUOTE]

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