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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7568730" data-attributes="member: 22779">Because it isn't accidental?&nbsp; The player has flat out declared that he's committing suicide to break the spell.&nbsp; What is accidental about that?&nbsp; Yup, that's about right.&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you really think this isn't metagaming?Bollocks.&nbsp; A truly immersed player wouldn't be such an incredible cheese weasel and try to get out of the negative consequences of a failed save in such a blindingly obvious way.&nbsp; Again, the ONLY reason that the player declares this is to break the spell.&nbsp; Put it another way, since we're doing hypotheticals here:Would a player EVER declare this action if it didn't break the spell?&nbsp; Would a player EVER commit suicide in this fashionThe obvious answer is no.&nbsp; The ONLY reason that the player has declared this action is because of the rules of the game.&nbsp; Has ZERO to do with role play and everything to do with a player who just wants a cheap way to get out of a failed save.&nbsp; Like I said, my response would be at least a critical hit on the PC for deliberately doing this, if not instant death.After all, if it's all about the role play, and not about abusing the rules, then the player should be perfectly happy with a dead PC.&nbsp; He's the one who committed suicide after all.&nbsp;&nbsp; I didn't force the character to do anything.&nbsp; I simply gave the results of his action.&nbsp; Dead PC.&nbsp; Everyone's happy right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7568730, member: 22779"] Because it isn't accidental? The player has flat out declared that he's committing suicide to break the spell. What is accidental about that? Yup, that's about right. Do you really think this isn't metagaming? Bollocks. A truly immersed player wouldn't be such an incredible cheese weasel and try to get out of the negative consequences of a failed save in such a blindingly obvious way. Again, the ONLY reason that the player declares this is to break the spell. Put it another way, since we're doing hypotheticals here: [indent]Would a player EVER declare this action if it didn't break the spell? Would a player EVER commit suicide in this fashion[/indent] The obvious answer is no. The ONLY reason that the player has declared this action is because of the rules of the game. Has ZERO to do with role play and everything to do with a player who just wants a cheap way to get out of a failed save. Like I said, my response would be at least a critical hit on the PC for deliberately doing this, if not instant death. After all, if it's all about the role play, and not about abusing the rules, then the player should be perfectly happy with a dead PC. He's the one who committed suicide after all. I didn't force the character to do anything. I simply gave the results of his action. Dead PC. Everyone's happy right? [/QUOTE]

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