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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 7569254" data-attributes="member: 1095">Well for one... you maintain your personality. Would a 5th level fighter be panicked suddenly when it finds itself a toad? I think my biggest issue with this line of reasoning is that it actually requires collusion between PC's out of character. I can't find any 5e rules that say I can impale myself on someone else's weapon, or that I can run under someone's foot and get squished automatically. How does said Frog communicate to his friends that he wants them to kill him? How do they know what to do? Why would bob the barbarian waste his attack on the frog at his feet when he's raging and there are hags to kill? I'm totally fine with a wizard/sorcerer, etc. either knowing or making a roll to know how to end a standard polymorph spell like that, then wasting their action doing something, or directing another PC to do so. The polymorphed fighter could certainly try to move towards his allies, no problem there. But it requires the allies to actually make a stabbing thrust etc. Heck, they still have to make an ATTACK roll to see if they even hit. Even if the fighter stands still, he still has an AC that someone has to hit (unless said sorcerer or wiz uses magic missile obviously). 5th/6th level PC's in a standard point buy game are going to be, what +7 to attack? So they miss on a 1,2, or 3 against the toad's AC. Then someone else has to try, etc. Either way I'm with the, the character needs to have knowledge of why he'd suddenly want to kill/attack his friend before I'd let that fly at my table. At the end of the day... I'm with the others who've said it though. Turn them into a giant shark (CR 5) and block up the door way the PC's were just running through. Let your friends spend however many rounds slicing and dicing their fighter friend (who feels all this) and then see how he reacts after the battle! Plus now your coven gets another 2-3 rounds to prepare or plan or cast other spells. It's great.</blockquote>

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