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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 89539" data-attributes="member: 707">You aren't looking at it from both sides, Henry.&nbsp; When you use any of the polymorph spells, there's a base creature and an assumed form.You are right, in that creatures get none of the supernatural, spell-like, or extraordinary abilities of the assumed form.However, the spell does allow creatures to retain the extraordinary abilities of the base creature.You've provided two examples.&nbsp; In the first, Piratecat's rustmonster seagulls do, indeed, have the ability to rust metal equipment.&nbsp; The polymorph formula in this case looks like this:Rust Monster (base creature with extraordinary rusting ability) --&gt; Seagull (assumed form, but retains rusting ability.)Your Troll example's formula would look like this:Human PC (base creature, no regenerating power) --&gt; Troll (assumed form, does not gain troll's regenerating power.)As you can see, you're right.&nbsp; It doesn't work because the ability in question belongs to the assumed form and not the base creature.&nbsp; However, this situation would work just fine:Troll (base creature, has extraordinary regeneration) --&gt; Human (assumed form, retains extraordinary regeneration ability.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 89539, member: 707"] You aren't looking at it from both sides, Henry. When you use any of the [i]polymorph[/i] spells, there's a [color=gold]base creature[/color] and an [color=lime]assumed form[/color]. You are right, in that creatures get none of the supernatural, spell-like, or extraordinary abilities of the [color=lime]assumed form[/color]. However, the spell does allow creatures to retain the extraordinary abilities of the [color=gold]base creature[/color]. You've provided two examples. In the first, Piratecat's rustmonster seagulls do, indeed, have the ability to rust metal equipment. The [i]polymorph[/i] formula in this case looks like this: Rust Monster ([color=gold]base creature[/color] with extraordinary rusting ability) --> Seagull ([color=lime]assumed form[/color], but retains rusting ability.) Your Troll example's formula would look like this: Human PC ([color=gold]base creature[/color], no regenerating power) --> Troll ([color=lime]assumed form[/color], does not gain troll's regenerating power.) As you can see, you're right. It doesn't work because the ability in question belongs to the [color=lime]assumed form[/color] and not the [color=gold]base creature[/color]. However, this situation would work just fine: Troll ([color=gold]base creature[/color], has extraordinary regeneration) --> Human ([color=lime]assumed form[/color], retains extraordinary regeneration ability.) [/QUOTE]

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