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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9472471" data-attributes="member: 7037866"><p>Ok, you just seem a bit exasperated by it...</p><p></p><p></p><p>But they don't because it does not specify it. What happens when the spell runs its full course is you no longer gain temp HP at the start of your turn--but it doesn't mean the temp HP you have disappears.</p><p></p><p>The duration of the fight is immaterial to the discussion. Only the length of the spell's duration.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It really isn't IMO. There are no specific rules here in the spells to apply. Only the general rules.</p><p></p><p>Temp HP are not magical in that sense. They can be granted by magic, certainly, but also many other features grant temp HP (like Inspiring Leader). Unless a feature or spell tells us temp HP end when something else happens, we have to follow the general rule for temp HP.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, bringing healing and damage into the discussion (except how damage can deplete temp HP) is pointless.</p><p></p><p></p><p>While I agree common sense should be the temp HP vanish when <em>polymorph</em> ends, that isn't RAW at all.</p><p></p><p>I also think temp HP from Wild Shape would go away if the druid drops out of Wild Shape or the duration of Wild Shape expires. However, nothing in the Wild Shape description specifies this as the case, so we are (once again) forced to use the general temp HP rule of expired at the end of a long rest.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed! It should be (at best) roughly half level or CR if the target has a CR to begin with. We all know a 7th level PC is not the equal to a CR 7 creature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9472471, member: 7037866"] Ok, you just seem a bit exasperated by it... But they don't because it does not specify it. What happens when the spell runs its full course is you no longer gain temp HP at the start of your turn--but it doesn't mean the temp HP you have disappears. The duration of the fight is immaterial to the discussion. Only the length of the spell's duration. It really isn't IMO. There are no specific rules here in the spells to apply. Only the general rules. Temp HP are not magical in that sense. They can be granted by magic, certainly, but also many other features grant temp HP (like Inspiring Leader). Unless a feature or spell tells us temp HP end when something else happens, we have to follow the general rule for temp HP. I agree, bringing healing and damage into the discussion (except how damage can deplete temp HP) is pointless. While I agree common sense should be the temp HP vanish when [I]polymorph[/I] ends, that isn't RAW at all. I also think temp HP from Wild Shape would go away if the druid drops out of Wild Shape or the duration of Wild Shape expires. However, nothing in the Wild Shape description specifies this as the case, so we are (once again) forced to use the general temp HP rule of expired at the end of a long rest. Agreed! It should be (at best) roughly half level or CR if the target has a CR to begin with. We all know a 7th level PC is not the equal to a CR 7 creature. [/QUOTE]
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