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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stargazer_dragon" data-source="post: 9541532" data-attributes="member: 41005">Amusingly,  for polymorph Temp HP  I think I agree with you, I think we just have the view that they go away for different reasons.  I was honestly, more interested in the argument about concentration, as I read that part way differently.   There wasn't much talk about that as it seams to have been brought up and then just accepted, with little actual conversation into it.I really wish they had used the wording like Mass polymorph specifically calling out that they go away, and I think pretty much every table will run it that way, RAI likely.   RAW I think they go away, only because other effects listed below them also do not state they go away, which indicates that they are all effects of the shapeshift. though I well know this to be a weak argument at best.</blockquote>