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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3195096" data-attributes="member: 141">The perniciousness doesn't really affect Abyssal Army. I'll fix Lore of Circe accordingly.Circe could turn people into lions and things- CR 5 would be an appropriate limit. Or the group CR limit could be imported into this feat.You are right about Arcane Accoutrement; there should be a way to buff items (especially armor and weapons).[edit] Just a second- with lore of Circe you pay 20 SP for the privelege of affecting unwilling subjects- that was given for free in the original version of the seed.&nbsp; The spell is permanent, but that 20 SP value was already paid for.&nbsp; If she chooses to, she can get a 20 SP saving with pernicious.&nbsp; If she prepares a meal she gets a +5 DC (a +10 SP value).&nbsp; And this also helps overcome spell resistance (+5 SP) and opposed caster level checks to dispel it (+5 SP).&nbsp; So yeah, it is 40 SP, but 20 SP are under very strange circumstances; where you prepare a meal.&nbsp; The saving for pernicious is rather specialized as well.&nbsp; In fact, I just realized that I forgot to apply the 20 SP.&nbsp; Abyssal Army is 20 points more expensive than I have it there![edit2] OK.&nbsp; Lore of Circe fixed to be more explicit.&nbsp; You are still right about Arcane Accoutrement, though; it shouldn't apply to [polymorph].[edit3] Does Lore of Circe still seem too powerful?&nbsp; It is only affecting one seed, and in a rather strait-jacketed kind of way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 3195096, member: 141"] The perniciousness doesn't really affect Abyssal Army. I'll fix Lore of Circe accordingly. Circe could turn people into lions and things- CR 5 would be an appropriate limit. Or the group CR limit could be imported into this feat. You are right about Arcane Accoutrement; there should be a way to buff items (especially armor and weapons). [edit] Just a second- with lore of Circe you pay 20 SP for the privelege of affecting unwilling subjects- that was given for free in the original version of the seed. The spell is permanent, but that 20 SP value was already paid for. If she chooses to, she can get a 20 SP saving with pernicious. If she prepares a meal she gets a +5 DC (a +10 SP value). And this also helps overcome spell resistance (+5 SP) and opposed caster level checks to dispel it (+5 SP). So yeah, it is 40 SP, but 20 SP are under very strange circumstances; where you prepare a meal. The saving for pernicious is rather specialized as well. In fact, I just realized that I forgot to apply the 20 SP. Abyssal Army is 20 points more expensive than I have it there! [edit2] OK. Lore of Circe fixed to be more explicit. You are still right about Arcane Accoutrement, though; it shouldn't apply to [polymorph]. [edit3] Does Lore of Circe still seem too powerful? It is only affecting one seed, and in a rather strait-jacketed kind of way. [/QUOTE]

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